Question for the JFK Conspiracy nuts

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  1. 4Horsemen

    4Horsemen Banned

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    and what's worse is family members that don't see it. that's when it hurts the most.
     
  2. SpotsCat

    SpotsCat New Member Past Donor

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    Really?

    JFK was better than George Washington? Better than Thomas Jefferson? Better than Abraham Lincoln?

    You sixth-graders need to stop with the superlatives, and actually study history, instead of believing movies you've seen on AMC...
     
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    JFK is more important simply because during his presidency, it was the tipping point in our nation's history. either we were gonna stand sovereign, or let the insiders take over. his assasination was a sign that we were being taken over.

    back in GW, Thomas J. and Ab's day we were dealing with our own internal issues mainly. settling the country down.

    JFK was focused on outside forces infiltrating us. which was worse IMO
     
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    Trying to write a Constitution, establish a government, and get the country up and running is small potatoes, right?

    I guess that whole thing about the "...Union being rent asunder" that happened under Abe Lincoln was chump change, eh?

    JFK was important because we "...were gonna stand sovereign, or let the insiders take over", but Washington, Jefferson, and Lincoln don't matter because they were "...dealing with our own internal issues mainly"?

    So the internal insiders under JFK matter, but the internal insiders under any other President don't?

    BTW - If "JFK was focused on outside forces infiltrating us. which was worse..." then I suggest you study the Presidency of James Madison and the War of 1812.
     
  5. 9/11 was an inside job

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    yeah if he had lived and had served a second term,the world would not be the mess that it is and we would not have corrupt institutions like the CIA and FBI because he was going to get rid of them.he was a man of peace and the establishment hated that.I dont know how that guy got Clinton mixed up with Carter.Like I said its well known Clinton was buddies with the Bushs way back when he was governor of arkansas and like Bush,also has ties to the CIA.Till Bush came along,Clinton was the most corrupt president ever right up there with Bush sr.Where Carter tried to get rid of the CIA as well.His last year he was taking steps to try and get rid of them as well but since he started it late in his administration,he did not have time to fully implement his plans.The CIA did get rid of carter as well actually just in a different way.Carter was on his way out,they set him up with the october surprise to make sure Reagan got elected.so since they knew he was on his way out anyways,they did not have to worry about assassinating him.If he had served a second term,they for sure would have assassinated him as well.did you know about any of this? whats funny about his comments is he only studies the FAIRY TALE history the establishment wrote for us here in america and not the evidence or facts but you already knew that anyways.
     
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    You forgot the FED... JFK was gonna take out the FED too. That man knew All the secrets, his whole family was on the inside... Why do you think they killed Bobby, or JFK Jr., Or Princess Diana?

    Oh then conveniently Lee Harvey was killed before he could testify. They knew he was gonna spill the beans about the assassination...

    They are all connected to exposing the Global elite...
     
  7. 9/11 was an inside job

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    your preaching to the choir.yeah I knew all that stuff just did not bother to mention it.Matter of fact it was the fed that got the CIA to get rid of him for them.The CIA was all too willing to do the feds wish since he was going to pull out of vietnam and get rid of them.what the american sheepie dont get is that whats written in the history books is the version of the events our government institutions wrote.this is too complicated for the lone nut apologists to understand but imiagine if germany had won the war,they sure as hell wouldnt have wrote in the books that they tortured and murdered women and children and 6 million jews.Well our government who got to rewrite history isnt going to tell you what really happened either.the american sheepie have been brainwsshed,they dont understand any of this because they have been programmed. that guy must have confused clinton with carter since both had grey hair,both were democrats and both last names began with a C.:mrgreen: thats where the similarities all ended though.
     
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    It is funny looking at how mental midgets view history.
     
  9. Dazed and Confused

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    Considering how corrupt and deceptive our elected officials are, it is probable the Kennedys were both killed by a gang of government officials, both elected and appointed, and directly, by operatives, not just Oswald. I don't buy the Mafia theory. If the Mafia was at all involved, it was certainly in league with some politicians.

    The national political players who were named in some of the previous posts were certainly capable of terrible acts to further their own cabal's interests. Plus, is it no interest that Gerald Ford of all people, a nobody with a mediocre mind and no mass appeal was appointed President by Nixon? Of course it was because Ford was instrumental in the Warren Commission cover up. Why else would a nobody Congressman from nowhere with no superior qualities be chosen to even be on the Warren Commission, let alone President? He got the job as a reward for participating in the cover up is my guess. This would indicate there was a complex plan in place, both for the assassination and for the cover up. It was certainly therefore not a one time one person killing motivated by an insane loser. (Neither was Sirhan's case. The shot came from elsewhere.)

    The US government is run by different gangs who vie for power over the decades. The gang which was not in power temporarily by eliminating Kennedy, but Johnson turned out to be one of the great American Presidents against all expectations to the contrary. He seemed like a back-slapping corrupt hick, but he did a tremendous amount of good for the masses.

    All elected officials cover up all the stuff they don't want the people to know, because it is so awful the people would lose faith in the idea of a republic. Of course the myth we live in a democratic republic is laughable. You can't even scare politicians anymore by threatening to vote against them--they all double down and go on with their crimes to benefit themselves and those who bribe them. The sad thing is that after all these years, the politicians and their appointees are so bad there aren't any credible people who would dare come forward with the truth. I may be wrong, but the official story stinks to high heaven.
     
  10. Soupnazi

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    Everything in your post is opinion and flights of fancy.

    There is no evidence anyneoexcept Oswald killed Kennnedy.

    Even if all of your opinions were true it does not constitute evidence and all of the conspiracy theories have been disproven.
     
  11. UntilNextTime

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    Simple. You don't need to be a rocket scientist to work it out. Using the dynamics of physics.
    When you watch the footage of JFK being shot, his head goes backwards after a shot came from the front of the presidential cavalcade. Lee Harvey Oswald was in the book suppository to the rear of the cavalcade as it was moving away from LHO's position. So if the shot came from LHO, JFK's head would have gone forwards from the kinetic energy of the projectile and his body slumped forwards towards the dashboard.
    Another fact to consider, the usual protocol for presidential protection protocol is to have Secret Service surround the presidential vehicle. This did not occur as the footage would demonstrate. Men on the grassy knoll and or stormwater drain did it. No question. LHO was the patsy. The donkey they pinned the tail on.
     
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    That was not yet the protocol. You are confusing current protocol with protocol in 1963.

    Back then there were no counter-snipers, no surveillance teams on the ground before the Presidential arrival, and open topped limousines were common. The entire detail in Dallas on that day was only 23 people. Today, the detachment normally numbers closer to 100 or more, with individuals scattered through the entire route from start to finish. It was that which changed the Secret Service into the much larger and more aggressive organization it is today.

    Such a basic mistake, assuming that the protocols of today were the same almost 60 years ago.
     
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    Long since disproven.

    What you are displaying is a llimited and amateurish understanding of physics. There are typically more than one force at work when someone is shot and igt is not normal to always move away from the bullet's line of travel. This is because bullets are not large enough to push human bodies or even heads more than an inch or two even if traveling at supersonic speeds.

    His head moved back due to other forces, not the bullet. A combination of the jet effect and neurological reactiuon caused this movement.
    Not to mention the impossibility of anyone being in front of Kennedy with a gun without being seen and NO ONE saw any such shooter.

    Sorry he was not patsy and the limited and cursory grasp of physics you show fails to prove he was a patsy.

    The evidence is CRUSHING that he shot Kennedy and ALL of the conspieracy theories have been irrefutably disproven


    There was no shooter in the front and we can prove this easily through many facts such as the absilute absence of an
     
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