Question: Will the Officers Get A Fair Trial

Oh he "questioned it". Oh well...clearly that stopped the incident.
And I thought it was second degree murder?

 

In any trial extinguishing circumstances are presented to the jury. Thus the verdict may not reflect the opinion of the liberal MSM or a mob of halfwits.

 

There is a great movie starring Michael Fox called The Casualties of War. In the movie, a squad of American soldiers kidnap, rape and murder a young Vietnamese girl in retaliation for Vietcong attacks on American soldiers.

One soldier, Michael Fox’s character, refuses to take part. He eventually reports this horrific crime to his superiors. He is stymied by his superiors every step of the way. In the end, he prevails and his fellow soldiers are brought to justice. Is he as guilty as the actual participants for not stopping it, or is his culpability less than actual participants? I judge it less.

 

Do what?

 

No. I want to see what happened before that.

 

No the leftist cadres will not react well but they. Big George died of a heart attack. Had fentanyl in his system and had persistent asymptomatic covid 19. Now if the rumors I've heard that there was earlier surveillance tape than then the infamous 4,8, or 9 minutes - I've heard all three - show a serious altercation between George and the cops you'll have a hard time selling manslaughter let alone murder 2 or 1.

 

Whatever the facts show they should be.

 

Even second degree murder requires proving the actor wanted to kill, not that he didn’t care, but that he wanted his victim dead. That’s a high bar.

Here’s an excellent explanation on of second degree murder.
https://criminal.findlaw.com/criminal-charges/second-degree-murder-overview.html

 

Like Floyd already cuffed and walking calmly to the sidewalk? He was cuffed...what kind of REAL threat could a cuffed man be to four armed men?

 

Maybe the justice department needs to put them in general population pending trial.

 

And this is justice for you? A lynching? Turns my stomach and tears my eyes in the same way the video did.

 

Was that on the video?

 

As details are still coming out, it is becoming concerning IMO that they may have overshot when they upgraded the charges to 2nd degree murder.

I don't pretend to be a legal expert, but it seems intent is going to be hard to prove.

They did the same thing in Florida with Zimmerman. Had they charged him with 3rd degree or manslaughter he may have been convicted.

And just like with Micheal Brown, if the actual evidence contradicts the narrative of the media and the mob, they will never except it. Those idiots are still holding up signs that say hands up don't shoot.

To the question of a fair trial though? I don't believe so. The prosecution has already upgraded the charge to appease a mob and possible cheated the people out of justice being served if they lose the case.

 

He got it when he robbed and beat a pregnant woman at gunpoint.

 

Calmly walking to sidewalk cuffed? Yes

 

One thing is for sure, it will eclipse both the OJ trial and the Casey Anthony trial in viewership.

 

Jailhouse justice? Did it always turn your stomach or just when it affects racist LEO?

Let’s start with the case of Angel Bumpass. It’s hard to support LE and justice system these days.

 

Keith Ellison is a smart man. "We will charge all that the facts and the law allows." He's not going to go over the line into hyper theatrics and emotions and take a chance on a mistrial or a not guilty verdict.

imo there's more developments coming pretrial to make the adjustment to what is feasible and what isn't. Probably all the facts are not in at this point.

 

It's always an attack on the rule of law and always revolting.

 

Don’t do bad things.

 

Or perhaps ole George trying to go medieval on a bunch cops and finally being brought to the ground and cuffed...

 

So if Floyd had been sitting upright, without compression on his neck, and he started saying he couldn't breathe, you might have a point.

But that's not what happened.

 

I’ve watched the video many times. It's revolting and frightening, but it does not show intent to murder. What it shows is reckless homicide--he knew his actions put the man’s life in jeopardy, but didn't care. At one point in the video, he's mocking the man to stand up while he's putting more pressure with his knee on the man’s neck. The officer is pure rotten evil, but he is not guilty of first or second degree murder, and they will lose if they insist on going after him with these charges. Reckless homicide, 15 to 20, no parole.

 

Nope. He was cuffed at his car and walked (calmly) to the sidewalk and sat down. Not sure how you cold have missed the video of this.

 

The video shows that George Floyd was already in distress before he was placed prone on the ground. Why? What was causing his distress? The drugs in his bloodstream?