Race and Crime

Discussion in 'Race Relations' started by Conservative Democrat, Jul 25, 2020.

  1. Buri

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    I showed the numbers, all you showed was opinion. That's the very definition of cherry picking.
     
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    I put up 6 sourced proving systemic racism is true.
    Your source doesn't mention it. I wouldn't even know how you think that debunks systemic racism. lol
     
  3. Buri

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    Those are opinion pieces, that’s not a statistic. You’re just virtue signaling until you have legit stats.
     
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    Stanford university and Human Rights Watch don't just make opinion pieces with no stats. You're out of line.
     
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    Quote where it says that they take unsolved drug crime into consideration. You won't be able to! :roflol:
     
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    I'm not attempting to provide any kind of correlation. My point is simple - MANY black people (2.2 million of them) disagree with you about politics IN GENERAL believe it or not!
     
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    We already discussed this 2 months ago, while I also addressed this in post 663.
    You're done. Your little puny opinion doesn't debunk 6 high quality sources.
    You keep thinking you can. It's hilarious you think you know things better than HRW.
     
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    Yes, we discussed that you were not able to quote where it says that they take unsolved drug crime into consideration! :roflol:
     
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    It takes all drug crime into consideration. That includes unsolved drug crime.
    The way you do not get this.... :roflol::roflol::roflol::roflol:
     
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    Quote where it says this. You won't be able to! :roflol:
     
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    So you're ranting off topic nonsense that you can't even prove.
    Got it. I will not respond to this off topic trolling again.

    My 6 sources proving systemic racism stand.
     
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    It's a picture saying what the % is of the population who uses drugs and who sells drugs.
    It's widely different than the % who they arrest.

    So of course this is about the entire population who uses/sells drugs.

    Your little puny opinion doesn't debunk 6 high quality sources.
    You keep thinking you can. It's hilarious you think you know things better than HRW.:roflol::roflol::roflol::roflol:
     
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    It's a FACT that 2.2 million voted for Trump!
     
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    Which would mean that they know about EVERY SINGLE person who has used/sold drugs! :roflol:
     
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    You're in no position to question the accuracy of the research without any source to debunk it. :roflol::roflol::roflol:

    And so it remains that I proved systemic racism is true.
     
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    your opinion pieces do not include stats, they're bogus and you know it. come back when you have evidence instead of pipe dreams.
     
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    They include stats.
     
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    Hurt People of any race are much more likely to hurt people.

    In Russia and East Europe crime rate grew by a factor of 8 between 1985 and 1995, and then fell by a factor of 20 between 1995 and now.

    Not only the same race, but also the same people. A 20 yo Komsomol member in 1985 has a purpose in life and no interest in crime. The same person having lost everything and very poor at age 30 may start to steal or even rob. The same person having survived the crisis and now a small businessperson at age 56 would not think about committing a crime.
     
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    No they do not, they’re not using any crime stats just presumptive figure. We have the stats, but you keep hiding from them because this whole thing is bs.
     
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    They do. Stanford university sifted through the data of almost 1 million traffic stops. You're just playing pretend. Very cute.
     
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    No, you’re just playing the Texas sharpshooter fallacy. If you had any evidence you’d have posted it by now.
     
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    I already put up 6 sources proving systemic racism is true. Among things, Sandford university using the data of almost 1 million traffic stops.
    While you remain to be not in any kind of position to question the credibility of Stanford.
    Your opinion aint scientific.
     
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    I'm not debunking your source, because your source does not CLAIM to know about EVERY SINGLE person who has used/sold drugs!
     
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    Using that sort of scholastic exactitude, it is already clear that your argument is a farce. Criminals, in general, were not customarily killed, in civilized countries, ever. The actual scholars you quoted earlier in your remarks, gave a 1% chance of dying either at the scene of one's crime, or in custody, or through a sentenced execution. It also gave a 1% chance of anyone-- not just criminals/possessors of "crime genes"-- being murdered. If you add into that the chances of dying in military service, or due to famine, or due to ILLNESS or Disease,
    and a merely 1% kill-off rate is enough to remove a gene, in large part, from a population,
    and the lack of any evidence of those, predominently non-crime gene carrying victims of murder, having more children than those with the crime gene,
    as well as the absence of any predicate for the assumption that these non-criminal children lived to adulthood with any greater frequency than criminals' children-- supposedly, only "rarely"--
    it seems a wonder that even a remnant of the human species still exists!

    Sure, I believe you can know what other people think, in their private thoughts. Why not?

    And the scenario you paint is as predictably certain in all instances, as it is that night will follow day.

    The only logical problem with that, is that wouldn't this be leading to a reduction of that terrible, black crime gene, in the century & half since we stopped enslaving them, officially?

    Speaking of which, how could they have suppressed their overwhelming urge to commit crimes, for the multiple centuries they were slaves. You are not claiming that an honest whipping could beat it out of them, are you? So, again, they must have been committing crimes against their masters, leading to punishments and, due to their recidivism, ultimately death. I wonder how well this is all borne out, in official records. Anyway, being subject to the righteous but gentle, white slave-owners justice, must have continued the weeding out of this black, crime-gene, right? So why would their not be fewer, not more, black criminals, percentage-wise, in America, than at any time in the last four centuries?

    You are mistakingly conflating legal behavior, with that which is, "civilized." It was regular operating procedure, when the British Navy needed more, "recruits," to Shanghai them from some portside pub or, as one of the American grievances, leading to the War of 1812, stealing them, from merchant ships. So abducting people, for forced labor, is civilized? Oh, wait, how silly of me; of course it was: that's what the long-civilized white race did with those uncivilized, black Africans. And, before that, with those uncivilized Caribbean, and Central & South American Indians, that weren't killed, in civilized warfare.

    And how about those VERY WHITE
    NAZIS? No better example of how much more civilized white races are, than black & brown ones.

    Oh, lastly, here's an interesting statistic from National Geographic, regarding the posterity of Genghis Khan:
    <SNIP>

    An international group of geneticists studying Y-chromosome data have found that nearly 8 percent of the men living in the region of the former Mongol empire carry y-chromosomes that are nearly identical. That translates to 0.5 percent of the male population in the world, or roughly 16 million descendants living today.

    <End Snip>

    And that's just males; there should be a roughly equal number of females. A real prince of gentleman, that Genghis.
     
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  25. Buri

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    You just copied the opinions of others, not any data collected by law enforcement. you're only pretending to understand the science of others, not presenting verifiable stats. that's why not one person has taken your rambling seriously.
     

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