Race and Crime

OP: I've been meaning to reply to another post that you had somewhere else but I kind of felt given your mindset it was a waste of time. But for the sake of others I've administered cognitive testing for school children including African heritage on and off for a few years in Australia. There's no disproportionate issue with blacks, but there's definitely cultural differences that might contribute to disorderly conduct. African mother's tend to let their boys run a little bit wild. Although it's more of a trend than a rule.

Many of them come from traumatised childhoods and the statistics that you put up somewhere
about Africans having lower IQ are arguably related to Africa itself.

May I ask have you been to Africa? travelled through the different countries and seen it for yourself? There is very obvious deep trauma there, uprooted from their traditional lives and thrust very quickly into a post-imperialist, postcolonial free for all. I would say this would account for the inability to even think clearly let alone submit an IQ test that is designed in a completely different culture, and language.

There are some genetic differences though. Many Africans are disproportionately blessed with athletic genes and would tend to do a little bit better on average especially to do with running

 

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I'll concede your point to a point. They'll eat both. Processed food has taken over. They all have simple sugars and fat as a selling point. Both, in quantity, destructive to health.
"Consumers may not substitute away from less healthy foods when they increase their consumption of healthy foods. Easy access to all food, rather than lack of access to specific healthy foods, may be a more important factor in explaining increases in BMI and obesity."

 

Edna does not believe in free will.

 

Americans, in general, are very lousy eaters. This is, of course, partially due to dumb regulations on production, but mostly is it a cultural issue where the modern American diet is utter and complete garbage.

However, eating bad food does not make you a criminal. And being poor does not force you to eat bad food.

 

Any real science on the brain in relation to psychological changes due to stress is new.

"A great deal of evidence suggests that corporal punishment, and scolding, make children turn out more aggressive and antisocial. Interestingly, the effects of different kinds of unpleasant experiences on the brain are equivalent because they are mediated by the same stress .. Such effects involve alteration in brain anatomy and function. They include: intellectual stunting; delinquency, poor impulse control; lack of work motivation; and precocious sexuality . It is as though a stressful childhood primes people to focus on immediate gains to themselves regardless of the consequences."

It certainly sounds like the psychological profile of an aspiring criminal. Your "choice" reason without knowing why an individual makes the bad choices he or she does nothing to prevent those choices.

Only an idiot would think that and that ain't me.

 

https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u....f_vicitm_by_race_and_sex_of_offender_2013.xls

3005 victims, 2245 black offenders. Maybe you should get back to math class. Facts are not racist, but you're playing the victim card for other people so one cannot expect this to be clear to you.

 

Whites are 76% of the population and account for 76% of the arrests for drunkenness and 81% of the drunk driving arrests. Would it be fair to say white people have a serious drinking problem, need to sober up and take responsibility for their drinking problem because they are a danger to society or would that be a racist statement? I think it is racist.

 

No, that would be racist. As I have already said; aggregated group data is completely irrelevant.

 

Tell Buri that.

 

1) Once again there are millions upon millions of MUCH poorer people in the world, who aren't doing crime - they're not so 'stressed' that their brains are changed. Therefore calling it 'stress' is just another cop out. The environment causing the problems isn't the material environment or money, it's the culture and parenting style of the family home. The only fix for that is the people themselves. No external agency or program will have more than a miniscule effect. If you care about the way black kids are being raised, turn and speak to the black parents who are raising them.

2) All of which is caused by the culture and parenting experienced in the family home. Turn and face, don't look for ways to perpetuate.

 

Those numbers reflect their % as citizens. They're on par with the numbers. You think everything is racist because you chose the easy, feel-good answers instead of the real answers.

 

I don't usually respond to your inane posts......but ignoring reason (science) and going with the "gut" and ideology seems to be a common thread among you and your compatriots. The stressors involve the environment, the culture of poverty and family dynamics. Nowhere have I suggested that the 11% of Americans who live in poverty are doomed to "doing crime". Those few who are affected by chronic stress in early childhood are more likely to be susceptible to falling into crime and there are ways to prevent it according to science, but it takes outside help.

As a "far left" person who agrees with everything far right, you believe they need to fix themselves. They don't need any help from society. Strange. How has that worked so far?

Your answer reflects your understanding.

 

That's why the numbers are more important than feelings. So, we have a serious problem with blacks committing a hugely disproportionate amount of crime and it's getting way worse.

 

And whites are drunks.

 

The race that enslaved those slaves. Slaves were not enslaved by whites. Until the invention of modern medicine, whites who entered the interior of sub Saharan Africa usually died from African diseases. Blacks were enslaved by other blacks and sold to whites.

The worse mistake European settlers and their descendants in the Americas made was the slave trade.

 

Genes matter.

 

A racist has come to mean "someone who draws attention to intractable differences between the races in average intelligence, and rates of crime and illegitimacy."

West Virginia has a lot of poor whites, and a fairly low crime rate. I lived in downtown San Jose, California during the early 1980's when the area was engulfed by Vietnamese war refugees. Most were poor. They were also good people. I would often get off work at 10:00 pm and walk two miles to get home. I was perfectly safe. I would not be if I walked through a black neighborhood starting at 10:00 pm.

People who cannot afford to support children should not have any. They certainly should not be given any welfare money to support those children.

 

Actually Ashkenazi Jews, with their average IQ's of 115 would be on top of Orientals, who would of course be on top of white gentiles.

Right now people with IQ's under 100 are having more children who survive and reproduce than people with IQ's above 100. While this is happening computer technology and automation are eliminating jobs most people have the intelligence to learn. If this continues a growing percentage of the American and world populations will be congenitally incapable of doing anything useful for a living.

 

I say after Supreme Court Oliver Wendell Holmes, Jr., "Three generations of imbecile is enough." If we do not sterilize the biologically inferior we should at least stop subsidizing their illegitimate children on welfare.

 

Of course that has nothing to do with the amazingly high rates of crimes by blacks vs whites/others, well past the 13% of America. Some people are drunks, some people like it when it rains, some don't like cats, none of that has anything to do with the math here.

 

But it has everything to do with you not understanding statistics.

 

Reruns?
No, racism still means race based bigotry. There isn't a positive spin.

Subjective "a lot of poor, fairly low crime" is no evidence and "war refugees" are a mixed bag of professions, again proving nothing.

Poor children need to starve and be homeless, to cut down on the poor having babies? Sick.

You don't seem to have much of a critique of my dystopia. Is it your perfect world?

Rich vs. poor have always, throughout history, have had different reproductive strategies.

Then you go on about computer tech/automation replacing the workers. It will one day replace everyone's job. What will we do then? Everyone to the showers?

 

I'm not the one ignoring the numbers. Do you need me to quote the incredibly vast discrepancy between the % of blacks in America vs their crime statistics again? You seem hell-bent on pretending those do not exist when you're not making excuses for the behavior.

 

Those with the IQ power to design and program computers and industrial robots will always have jobs. Eventually they will lose their willingness to pay for the welfare checks of the those without the requisite intelligence unless they submit to sterilization.