Race and Socioeconomic factors more effect on murder rate than gun control

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  1. Vegas giants

    Vegas giants Well-Known Member

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    So it's a theory that may or may not be true.

    We have first world diverse countries of all different cultures that have much lower gun deaths than us with the common factor being gun control.

    So that must be a factor
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Donor

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    Like all theories.

    The problem is none of those countries have as much diversity as the U.S.
    Racial composition & diversity could also be seen as a common factor, in that situation.
     
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    Vegas giants Well-Known Member

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    Prove it
     
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    Vegas giants Well-Known Member

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    You just said countries with low diversity have high gun deaths like Nigeria.

    Why?
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Donor

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    White babies have already now become a minority in the U.S. Any other country where that's now the case? Europe, Canada, Australia, any of those countries on your "developed" list of countries? Are Asian babies in South Korea a minority?

    I don't need to go to any lengths to prove anything, it's obvious.
     
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    Vegas giants Well-Known Member

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    Show your evidence. Remember....Hispanic is white
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Donor

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    Some Hispanics are White, many are brown. The indigenous population in Latin America is not really truly "Hispanic".
     
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    Vegas giants Well-Known Member

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    Gun control works.

    Its obvious . Lol
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Donor

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    Of course it "works". The question is how effective is it actually? Will it reduce the overall homicide rate by 90% or 1% ?

    The problem when you start comparing between different countries across the world is that there are many other confounding factors.
    As you admit yourself, being a "developed" or "developing" country is one big such factor, otherwise you would not limit your comparison to only developed countries.

    The problem is, many of these factors happen to be correlated to other factors.
    All the "developed" countries in the world happen to be White English-speaking, Western European, or Northeast Asian. (Singapore also falls into that category because it is ethnic Chinese).
    So we don't really have a good control to look only at a single factor.
     
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    Let's get some more and find out.

    Welcome aboard. Lol
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Donor

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    Didn't Australia already try this and it didn't seem to make much difference?
     
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    That's not what I heard. But happy to look at your evidence
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Donor

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    Why does North Dakota have a lower gun homicide rate than the province of Alberta to the North?
    Isn't North Dakota in the U.S. and Alberta in Canada?
    North Dakota's homicide rate in 2017 was 1.3 and that includes ALL homicides, both committed with a gun and not.
     
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    It must be diversity!!!!! Lol
     
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    Canada has been rapidly increasing in diversity level in recent years.

    Maybe that explains the increasing rise in illegal guns and gangs?
     
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    The drug gangs of alberta?


    Hilarious
     
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    It might have sounded ridiculous only 10 years ago, but in recent years cities in Canada out in the middle of nowhere have been rapidly diversifying.
     
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    Dude.i give you credit for trying but this is hilarious
     
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    And as I am Hispanic or Latino if you will,
    Hispanic is not necessarily WHITE, a Hispanic can be White, or Black or Mulatto or
    Indio.... or a mix of all.
     
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