Rachel Levine Nominated as One of USA TODAY’s ‘Women of The Year’

I will have to disagree that no one is trying to force religion when we have religious laws on the books and new ones being pushed fairly regularly.

Both are a delusion in my book and when you apply the direct definition — the issue is one is “normal” while the other one isn’t. Both groups can be harassing but the vast majority just want to be left alone. My point is to not judge the many due to the actions of the few, more people should practice harm reduction in their daily lives towards others as none of us know how another is struggling.

It might make you have a few moments of pleasure to misgender someone but it could absolutely destroy them. You wouldn’t walk around refusing to call a Christian a Christian and instead referring to them as a Muslim, would you?

 

Only the absurdity of the response. If there are specific problems, a woman who is biologically a woman is still a women. And likewise a man who is infertile has a specific issue is still male. Neither example create an exception to the biology though. An XY male who has the surgery to appear like a woman still cannot be female in the sense that they cannot ever produce offspring. They don't then biologically represent a female of the species. This is the science.

 

okay, so womanhood is defined by "biological femaleness" regardless of whether an individual is able to produce offspring. but apparently you define "biological femaleness" as the ability to produce offspring, because that's the sole basis on which you exclude transsexual males from the status of "woman" here. do i really need to spell out the problem with this?

 

Yes, post #29 you back tracked from this very clear statement:

Nobody is taking words from your mouth. You literally said it.

 

It’s not natural, it’s an anomaly, a defect, it goes against Mother Nature and the settled science of biology.

I don’t know how old you are, but back in the day we used to tell jokes and see cartoons about delusional people thinking they’re Napoleon. Looking in the mirror, seeing what you are and then denying it is delusional.

 

But it is fair for transgendered women to compete for "Woman of the Year"?

 

Parades like you asserted we have “gone from” still happen, here is one from 2020


Most pride parades ban lascivious behavior, most are like this


You can see tons of events where heterosexual displays are even more grotesque than you are complaining about above. I understand you have a need to be outraged and targeting a minority due to the behavior of a minority of that minority is an easy target so have at it.

 

He is a man, any surgery that was performed is cosmetic.

 

I am not ridiculing, I am not condoning modifying science to align with political wokism.

You realize there was a time where most medical professionals agreed that smoking was good for people too.

 

Women were born to give birth. If they can’t because of some defect then that doesn’t make them a man.

 

Why do you CARE??? Is it in any way going to affect your life whether Levine is a man or a woman. She or he is apparently very capable of performing the responsibilities of her job, isn't that enough???

 

All whatabout'ism and relativism fallacies to avoid the topic.

I don't give three shits about how people identify from a gender perspective or who they elect to be intimate with even of the same sex.

What I DO have a problem with is forcing it into my face, telling me I have to accept it without allowing my personal beliefs, establish what pronouns I have to use, and expecting that I align with their alternate universe and accept it even when it creates a breakdown of social structures pertaining to gender.

You do you. Stop asking me to do you or impacting society and forcing it down people's throats... then calling them a host of names when they don't agree.

 

Perfectly said. This is what some people are incapable of understanding.

You are FREE to be anything you want and do whatever pleases you. You don't however get to take away my FREEDOM and force me into compliance with your standards. That doesn't make you less free, it maintains freedom for everybody.

 

It's now about how we identify THEM, it's how they identify themselves and then force us into compliance.

You have this backwards. It would be like the snake saying "I am a worm, and you must call me a worm or you take away my freedom and create an oppressive environment". No. I do not have to change reality to comply with the snakes demands.

 

Yes, it is affecting my life. Because this conversation is larger than the simple symptom you are trying to diminish to avoid talking about the disease. Levine is simply a symptom of a larger issue.

Yes, people have legitimately been hurt by this wokism. There are women athletes who have lost their achievements because a man stepped in and beat them. Our children are being forced to comply with this gender fluid non-sense, even our neighbors to the north have attempted to pass laws making improper pronouns offensible as hate speech.

The "this is an isolated personal choice" deflection went out the window at the precise moment concessions were demanded that everybody align to a tiny fraction of societies demands of an alternate reality.

 

i'm hoping this is just a case of awkward wording otherwise i'm about to go solanas up in here

can you please read backwards in the quote chain b4 responding bc that's not what we're talking about at all

 

The issue of course is why a man who did nothing is USAToday Woman of the Year.

 

That might not be entirely true. Everyone is born with a specific DNA, and that programs that person with certain amounts of hormones that are gender specific.
We all have the hormones, but different levels. So there could be a physiological difference in hormone levels within each one of us.
Not only that, but the hormone levels change with age, so a man with a certain level of testosterone may lose that level as age increases.
Point is, we all are a cocktail of differing hormone levels depending on DNA and age.

 

How very snide.

When did a transgender person harm anyone due to their transition? Such a weak, mean-spirited, epic fail of an analogy.

 

In what way? Don't we already have plenty of that? I experienced misogyny throughout my decades long career. How would my simple explanation of transgenderism make it worse?

Yes, it does run deeper than that, but as a retired technical writer, my first rule of explaining a thing is to speak to the lowest common denominator. Always know your audience.

 

Did she not have gender reassignment surgery? I thought that she had.

This should not be a political issue, so why bring former presidents into it?

You sound angry and bitter. I could be wrong.

 

You can comment all you like.

"It's better to keep your mouth shut and appear stupid than open it and remove all doubt.” ― Mark Twain

 

When they eliminate women from sports and woman of the year awards.

 

Error in judgement? I don'tknow you. All I had to go on was your comment. If I misjudged, I apologize, but you must see what I mean about the epic amount of cluelessness evidenced by the mean-spirited comments from most of the self-identified men on this thread.

 

Clear oroof of my assessment of the many on this thread who don't, can't, or won't understand this issue.