There are many black people who militate against white people. It is correct that white people treated black people badly. However they did so with the agreement of African leaders, who sold their own people into slavery in order that they could make a buck. After colonialism, for a long time the situation was not much better. A Mobutu or a Mengistu was not better than the white colonists. From the position of the person who is being oppressed, it does not matter who oppresses him. Whether a white man cuts off your hand or whether a black man cuts off your hand, your hand has been cut off. Now some people would see such opinions as being racist. They are in fact the opposite of being racist. They are opinions that hold the black man to the same standard of accountability as they hold the white man. They are opinions that do not treat black people as children, but as adults. And that, once again, makes them the opposite of racism. It makes them the opinions that treat black people as grownups who are responsible for their actions. I am close to a number of women who are black. Many of them have negative things to say about how their own black men have treated them. When I care about someone, I stand against the people who treat them badly. That, once again, is the case regardless of their race. I find it infuritating how some white women see anything that white men do to them as abuse, but excuse even the worst abuse against women who are not white under the claim of mutliculturalism. Equality means accountability, and that is the case both for men who are white and for men who are not. If a man from Iran pr Uganda is treating his wife like dirt, then that is just as much the problem as is the case if a man from Indianapolis is treating his wife like dirt. I stand against the disgusting behavior by both parties. When I was a part of a mostly-black poetry reading in DC, a young black woman was reading a poem that kept going on, “Just say you are sorry.” I do not see for one moment why I should be sorry for the actions of the people whom I would have opposed if I had been alive at that time. I am against wrong treatment of people, whoever does it and whenever he does it. So then there is the claim that I benefit from the system that has oppressed black people. So do many of the black people in America today. Most American black people enjoy a standard of living that far surpasses that of their own countries. As for the white people, it bears stating that during the Civil War many white men lost their lives in order to liberate black people from slavery. It is completely wrong to attack white people for sins that they themselves did not commit. I am not a racist. I am the opposite of a racist. I hold black people to the same standard to which I hold white people. I treat black people as adults, not as children. If a black person is doing the right thing, I support him. If a black person is doing the wrong thing, I want to see him confronted on that. Do the black people have a long history of victimization? Yes, but they are not the only ones. I am ethnically Jewish. The Jewish people have experienced horrors like you would not believe. However I do not seek a destruction of Germany or Poland. I want to see both places fix whatever is wrong with them and become the best places that they can be. If you are black, that does not mean that you should be treated like a child. You should be treated in the equal way as white people: As adults. You are responsible for what you are doing to your own people. And once black people – both in Africa and outside of Africa – understand this, they actually have a chance of making their own people well.
White Egalitarians would not agree with you. They are embarrassed by White Supremacists with your ideological beliefs and think far more highly of Black people than they do racists.
All I know is life has never been fair. So you can see yourself as a victim and wallow in that and never pull yourself up, or you can work hard to pull yourself up and live a decent life. Jews went from being despised to owning much of the world's wealth. Perhaps other minorities should learn from them? If you want a world devoid of unfairness and racism, wish with one hand and crap in the other and see which one gets filled up first. Or you can wallow in victim-hood and it is a self fulfilling prophesy. It holds people back. Fight for equality under the law and forget about changing human nature.
In which white majority nation do blacks have crime rates comparable to whites or even other non-whites?
I'm not going to bother with that question because it is completely irrelevant to my point. Crime rates can not be generalized to an entire population. Most people in general do not commit violent crimes so even if Blacks had disproportionate crime rates in every White majority country and more so than every other ethnic group that isn't considered to be White that wouldn't mean anything when it comes to the behavior of the majority of Blacks. Most people are law-abiding citizens. In America the number of Black people in prison has been inflated by the arrest and conviction of non-violent offenders. So if you focused on the violent criminals they are actually a very small percentage of the general population and statistical differences in crime rate between demographic groups can be explained by environmental differences between those groups in which institutional racism is a major factor. So the real issue here is what does the average White person think of your racist argument that Blacks are a burden to White people? White Egalitarians would be highly offended by your argument since many of them deal with Black people on a daily basis including classmates, friends, teachers, neighbors, co-workers, employees, employers, spouses and family members. On the other hand White Egalitarians despise White people who are racist. All of these White Supremacists, White Nationalists, Neo-Nazis, Klansmen and other hate groups that promote racism are people that White Egalitarians detest. They are disgusted by your evil ideology. Some of them are ashamed to be White or at the very least don't want to be associated in any way with people who think like you.
So above we have a perfect demo of EgalitarianJay 'Debate', and exactly as I described yesterday and many times previous. The Bulk of which is NINE JPGs showing black and white people together, and NOT addressing the post he 'replied' to Proving NOTHING. Just again, BURYING/Physically Bludgeoning a simple point he Cannot answer with several Scrolling FEET of Childish Pictoral distraction, of NO intellectual significance to the debate. Incredible. And he wants to go to a more 'serious' Sci board. Are you kidding! This post is one of many that show how nonsensical (that's the allowed word) Ejay's tactics are. Blacks Murder and Rob at 8x the White Rate, and 1/3 of Black men have been in the Penal system. That ain't [Disingenuous STRAWMAN] "Most," but it's ******* horrific, and highly significant. +
I made a counter point. I'm not going to allow you racists to dictate discussion with these troll tactics. What Rayznack does is ask leading questions to bait opponents in to long-winded discussions about the argument he wants to make. So rather than fall for the carrot on the string I will simply counter with the argument that racism doesn't benefit society in any way. The pictures are intended to support my point with visual evidence. Black people are not some sort of human pests who are dragging down society. We are ordinary people living our lives and most White people today understand this. Most White people today don't think like you or Rayznack. They are embarrassed by you because you make White people look bad. In America we have a President who is so corrupt and out of touch with society that he is more critical of football players protesting injustice than the violent protests of White Supremacists. Even former President George W. Bush has taken a stand to say that White Supremacy and bigotry in general is against the American creed. Trump is that bad of a President that people are thinking more highly of Bush who agrees with former Presidents such as Obama and Clinton. That's real leadership and that is the tone of most of the country which is why there are massive protests against racism going on.
Why would whites want more blacks in their living space when they could have less violent, higher IQ whites instead?
I agree with the overall message that all people should be treated equally and be accountable for their own actions. That goes for all groups, not just Black people. I am not a Black Militant and don't hate White people or blame White people for everything. There's no reason for me to entertain these racist questions. Instead I recommend that all people work together to improve the societies they live in. When you do that you can decrease violence and raise the IQ of all groups.
So we can easily find black Americans with higher IQs than yours, which makes you a f**king failure as a white guy (using your logic).
In America we have a massive problem with gun violence which has nothing to do with race and everything to do with gun laws that allow guns to be widely available. If we made an effort to eliminate poverty and make it harder for criminals to gain access to guns that would lower violent crime rates considerably.
Gun crime is a black issue; not a white or even poor issue. In the UK, blacks are also disproportionately violent compated to whites. Black violence is a black issue and follows blacks around the globe. Why would whites want black crime in their societies? What is the benefit to black diversity?
OK look. I'm on your side on the stupid "race-realism" issue. You're obviously better educated than I am. You're probably smarter, too. But, that reply is just retarded. Weapons do not have the mystical power to place themselves in people's hands, and then compel them to pull the trigger. There is obviously something else going on.
It's only flawed social constructs, such as racism and multi-culturalism, which lower social cohesion.
Sorry, I don't think I'm understanding your point. It seems that you're saying that racism doesn't exist where there is no group to be racist against. I'm a big fan of diversity. Real diversity. Not that fake, leftist diversity, where we're all required to believe that everybody is good except Christians, conservatives, and white males. Multi-culturalism is a false concept, entirely. It is strictly a tool that the left uses to further their goal of destroying America. America is defined by a distinct set of values. If those values become corrupted or are replaced, America is destroyed. The fakery of multi-culturalism seeks to corrupt and destroy America's values. Skin color is irrelevant to the values one chooses to hold dear.
