Racist White Boys

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  1. edna kawabata

    edna kawabata Well-Known Member

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    I am sorry, but I will have to go with the FBI's opinion.
    Society drives white older men to suicide with their lawfully purchased handgun. Black men seldom take there lives unless it is by cop. General society believes race exists therefore it does.
    Yes, Sri Lankan ethnic separatists.
    Wiki said 35k, whatev, it might be true by now...yes antigovernment, conspiracy theory org who claim they are not racist.
    ...and south Asians are Pakistanis, Indians, Bangladeshis....and this is important because?
    No, not really.
    That's it blame the left for the triggered young men who then come under a siege mentality because of their internalized racism and then find the like minded on the web to reinforce those feelings. Is that it?
    So non-racists are being radicalized because they think people are telling them they are racists so they become racists? These fellows with delicate egos think the world is telling them they got where they are (or not more probably) because they are white and come to see white as a disadvantage and their world threatened.
    Uh, race and gender are political issues. You can't wish it away. Certain races and genders have issues with how they are treated by general society and that society has been dominated by a white patriarchy. This has caused an over reaction in some quarters who view this as a threat and have taken up arms with chants of take our country back.
    That's their story and they're sticking to it.
     
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    Call a black man a 'boy' and see how it's received @edna kawabata
     
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    Sounds like black nationalist are using the excuse of past racism to justify current, racist terrorism.....Malvo?
     
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    You only wish. Suicide crosses your race glasses and your claim is akin to flat eartherism.
     
  5. edna kawabata

    edna kawabata Well-Known Member

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    It's all context.....I prefer the Blind Boys of Alabama over Boyz II Men

    Malvo? The serial killer a few years back? A better example would be a potential terrorist group the Rise of the Moors. Go with that weak counter argument.
    Do your comments just come from your "gut feelings"?
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    Wow, nice graph...does jack to 'prove" your claim......(your post, below)....

    Society drives white older men to suicide with their lawfully purchased handgun. Black men seldom take there lives unless it is by cop. General society believes race exists therefore it does.
     
  7. edna kawabata

    edna kawabata Well-Known Member

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    You like graphs....
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    Let me know when you know what you are talking about.
     
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    Let me know when you can prove your statement. Or just make some more stuff up and post a graph that doesn't really agree with your statement
     
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    Yes. Race only matters because people make it matter. The obvious solution is to stop making it matter.

    Sounds plausible. People do tend to grow into what others constantly label them as. Keep screaming at a not racist kid that he racist and good chance he becomes so over time, at least more than he was previously. Keep beating people over the head with race identity politics, and eventually there is a good chance many of them will decide to identify that way and play that game, and play to win for their assigned side. That means more racists, of all races, divided against each other, instead of shoulder to shoulder. The latter is more likely if you emphasize race as not so important, and a dumb thing to identify by.

    Race has been politicized and used to divide people. It has become political only because society makes it political, so yes, society very much can wish it away. The problem is too many don't want to.

    No. Races and genders are traits, not people. Traits can't have issues with anything. Individuals with traits can. A subtle but absolutely vital difference.

    In many regards, yes, it absolutely has, and we can examine that and address ways in which the design can be improved on, all without being racist or sexist in doing so, all without generalizing multivariate and complex individuals into shared traits as if everyone with a particular trait must think the same things.

    People who chant things like "Jews will not replace us" or "America is for white Judeo-Christian etc" are bigots and are small in number and should be exposed rather than silenced. Others who think they oppose bigotry are actually similarly bigoted, such as those who go on about "black people can't be racist" or "white people are all racist" etc. They should be handled in the same way.

    The loud white nationalist type racists and the loud "progressive" (not progressive), "liberal" (not liberal), "anti-racist" (but actually racist) type of racists have more in common with each other than either have in common with the vast and more silent majority of both liberals and conservatives who actually oppose racism.

    The two types of racists noted above think in very similar ways and feed off of each other's vitriol. Robin DiAngelo is a better recruitment tool for white nationalism than Richard Spencer is. And vice versa.
     
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    edna kawabata Well-Known Member

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    Okay, first you raise the issue of race and I prove the huge racial differences in suicide rates and then you move the goal posts. Statistically men over 65 have the highest rate of suicide and they use a gun. Can I prove that few of them use an illegal handguns to do the job? No....does that leave your ego intact?
    You can not wish away or ignore the complaints of people who belong to a group who believe their group is treated differently just because they belong to that group and be dealing with reality.

    So you think white people have such delicate egos that if they hear some fringe actor say all white people are racist they will believe it and become racist? Sounds bizarre to me. The only people getting "beat over the head" about racism are the racists who now feel the world is against their world and their confirmation bias latches onto obvious falsehoods like "black people can't be racist" and use that to call the entire movement illegitimate.
     
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    People do not "belong to (racial) groups". The insistence that they do and the formation of such groups in the minds of society is the root problem of racism. Just because my skin is dark doesn't mean I should be grouped with others whose skin is dark.

    Racism is the problem, not race. A person who is white should be just as pissed off if I am treated differently because of my skin colour. Where people are routinely treated differently because of skin colour that hurts all of society, morally, economically, and in terms of crime and justice. If a particular white person thinks their race puts them above this, then they are part of the problem.

    Stop with the racism already. It isn't that "white people" have such delicate egos. It isn't "white people". It is human beings. The research is there. Humans tend to grow into what you label them as. It is also a major reason why when a black boy in the inner city is told over and over again by racists that he must be a thug, that be is far more likely to grow up to be a thug. That's racism in action. It isn't because of his race at all. It is because of people constantly telling him his race has a meaning, a negative one. Stop doing that.

    That is true about such racists. And a loud growing minority of the movement you speak of use their confirmation bias to see racism against non-white people everywhere, and use the small number of white nationalists to call everyone concerned about their own illiberal neoracism, "racist white boys".

    As I said, each type of racist uses the other to feed itself, in a cycle, and those who aren't racist need to find a way to stop from spinning out of control.
     
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