Racists?

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Can Only American Republicans, their Politicians and their media, Be Racists?

  1. Yes.

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  2. No.

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  3. No. American Democrats, their Politicians, and their media can be also.

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  1. RoanokeIllinois

    RoanokeIllinois Banned Donor

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    Unfortunately, the whole crap about racism, helped set off other things like the trans movement.
     
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    RoanokeIllinois Banned Donor

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    how is it inaccurate?
     
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    Read what you quoted carefully, one free bump.
     
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    RoanokeIllinois Banned Donor

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    hu. go figure. the racist Liberal fake news media that get paid and am employed by Liberal Democrat Politicians constantly say how racist Republicans are, but in reality, most people think that they're not.

    It's more like that most people know that they're not. and yet, democrats still listen to this crap and let it effect their decisions.
     
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    if were talking about the racist on the right or the left and one is not a racist, were not talking about them

    what did you mean when you said racist liberal, did you mean all liberals?

    like I said

    most white racists are on the right

    most black racists are on the left

    just the way it is
     
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  6. Richard Franks

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    Racism has no place in society.
     
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    Then let's just quit "identifying" by race.
     
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    Apparently, you are wrong, particularly in a Capitalist society where the "haves" and the "have nots" need some form of obtainability pattern. You can argue that it doesn't need to be racist in theory but because colour is easily identifiable it makes sense to employ that as a yardstick.
    That is sound advice.
     
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    edna kawabata Well-Known Member

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    How naïve. Racists will have none of that and then those being treated differently because of their race will complain. Right-wingers will then blame those complaining about the racial imbalance as causing the racial divide.
     
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    In fact, the DP has always been the party of systemic institutional racism in the US. The DP has always depended on disenfranchised human beings for its political survival.
    Slaves could not vote, but they were counted in the census toward the creation of more House seats controlled by the white DP establishment.

    After slavery was abolished through civil war and the radical RP's Reconstruction governments racist white Democrats disarmed black Americans and passed "Black Codes" to again disenfranchise them while maintaining the House seats created by counting them in the census.

    Hence The Inconvenient Truth: “Both of them have sold us out, both parties have sold us out. Both parties are racist, and the Democratic Party is more racist than the Republican Party.” Malcom X, By Any Means Necessary, Malcom X, Betty Shabazz and Pathfinder Press, 1992, P 46.

    Eisenhower's sent the paratroopers and finally integrated the schools by military force.
    This was a rare exception to RP indifference to blatant unconstitutional systemic institutional racism which effectively ended when the Dixiecrats led by Joe Biden halted the movement to integrate racially segregated schools in our DP ruled urban hell holes.

    "By then, both parties had effectively abandoned integration as national policy, beyond what had already been achieved (and even that came under fire. in the Reagan/Bush administrations). Neither party pressed hard for further racial gains or pushed for enforcement of what had been done, and both treated racial aspirations largely as a patronage problem to be handled by Cabinet appointments and other political spoils. Most important, neither party was willing or professed to see the necessity to mount an attack on the economic trends that had created the inner-city ghetto and that also were keeping many whites and non-ghetto blacks in poverty and hopelessness."
    THE NATION, Deserting the Democrats: Why African-Americans and the Poor Should Make Common Cause in Their Own Party, By Tom Wicker, June 17, 1996.
    https://www.questia.com/magazine/1G1-18381645/deserting-the-democrats-why-african-americans-and

    Right now segregated black American communities are being ethnically cleansed under the supervision of local DP governments and police departments.
    This has led to the creation of the now desperate and so far ineffective Black Lives Matter Movement.
     
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    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That is complete double speak. Either you recognize human beings by the soul that exists within them or you don't. If you don't, you perpetuate racism making you a racist. That's it in a nutshell. There are no good racists or bad racists. There are just racists and they are evil. You don't invoke racism to overcome racism. Is that too hard for you??
     
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    You have contradicted your own conviction in a single sentence. You insinuate that racism is here to stay because there is no other alternative but you immediately razz "right-wingers" thus providing the "difference of treatment" and a "divided imbalance" alternative that you pretend exists exclusively in a racial context
    Well said.
     
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  13. edna kawabata

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    Rationalizing the present by looking at the past may make you feel good but it isn't reality. Currently there are 58 African Americans in Congress. 56 are Democrat, just 2 are Republican. 90% of African Americans vote Democrat. The Democratic party is their party and they are not children being fooled by the libs. That would be condescending, wouldn't it?

    How is that "double speak". You recognize the presence of racists. If there is a problem do you solve it by ignoring it? Is that too hard for you?

    Racism is a common human problem, like jealousy, greed, sloth....don't expect it to ever go away, but it can be controlled or suppressed in society. To do that it needs to be recognized for what it is and those that are treated unfairly need to make it known that they don't like the way their group is being treated. What white person knew wearing black face and singing Mammy was offensive to Blacks until they spoke up?
    There have been multiple examples on here of right-wingers blaming Blacks who complain about injustices they perceive for the cause of the racial divide.
     
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    Is that supposed to be substantive rebuttal?

    In fact, the DP continues its long campaign to crush the black American family, culture and community.
    Malevolent DP urban governments, our thoroughly corrupt racist criminal justice system, and our grotesque diseducation system have all worked as intended.

    “Compton, with a population of about 97,000, was predominantly black for many years. It is now 65% Latino and 33% black, according to the 2010 U.S. census. But it's not only historically black areas that have been targeted.

    Federal authorities have alleged in several indictments in the last decade that the Mexican Mafia prison gang has ordered street gangs under its control to attack African Americans. Leaders of the Azusa 13 gang were sentenced to lengthy prison terms earlier this month for leading a policy of attacking African American residents and expelling them from the town. Similar attacks have taken place in Harbor Gateway, Highland Park, Pacoima, San Bernardino, Canoga Park and Wilmington, among other places. In the Compton case, sheriff's officials say the gang appears to have been acting on its own initiative.”
    LOS ANGELES TIMES, Attack on family in Compton latest incident in wave of anti-black violence, By Sam Quinones, Richard Winton and Joe Mozingo, LA Times, January 25, 2013.
    http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-0126-compton-20130126,0,977110.story

    Trump managed to attract a wave of support from black Americans and Latinos with just a few very modest inadequate reforms. Without Trump, the RP, which, since Reconstruction has, with few exceptions, remained disinterested in the plight of the minority poor struggling to survive under ruthless DP governments and institutions.
     
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    The Left, obviously. That's where you'll find all the race baiters and agitators.
     
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    Oh right Edna ... it's racism when other people do it, but not you.

    How old are you again?
     
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    Since they're grown adults with functioning brains, it's not likely to be the former.
     
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    Well said.
     
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    Exactly. I mean try suggesting colourblindness to a Progressive, and see what happens.

    The very thought of not being able judge others according to race, is horrifying to them.
     
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    Racism has no place here. | Scott County, MN (scottcountymn.gov)
    You know something? We should and accept others on who they are.
    Former President Trump brought back racism because he a racist himself and he had no right doing it and when the 2020 elections came and went, the majority of the voters voted Trump out and Biden in and as a result the voters had spoken. There are people in the United States that would agree with me that Racism has no place in society and that is a fact, and I mean it! Do you think it was right for a police officer to set his knee on George Floyd's neck until he dies? When he said "I can't breathe" Why didn't the policeman let up? Explain that to me. I remember Martin Luthur King say
    I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character.
    We should not judge others by the color of the skin, but by the content of their character. Do I make myself clear?
     
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    I think I was more substantive then your hyperbolic factoids. The Democrats campaign to crush the Black family, culture and community, malevolent urban governments, corrupt racist judicial system and diseducation have worked as planned? It sounds more like hysterical conspiracy ramblings.

    African Americans are full partners in the Democratic party, something the Republicans can not say. They are invested in and help run many of the “malevolent" urban governments. They are not useful tools. They are adults that make grownup, mature decisions, if you can believe that.

    You then pivot to Latino gangs? What is that, another Democrat conspiracy theory?

    Trump did manage to attract the gullible and during his “reign” white nationalism grew by 55%….”Stand back and stand by”…..we gottcha Mr. President, wink, wink, nudge, nudge.
     
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    This is obvious.

    No. This statement of yours proves that you don't even understand racism.

    This is ridiculous. Was Jerry Lewis' complexion offensive to white people?
    You really are boring.
    I can make the same case for the number of white cars and draw conclusions from that and imagine it applies to worldwide racism. It is pure fantasy - your fantasy.

    BOTTOM LINE: The definition of racism unfavorable / dislike / hatred / condescending attitudes towards black people. I am sorry but you have no contributing qualification to debate this subject. You may as well discuss algebra without the fundamental understanding of adding and subtraction.
     
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    Very silly. Racism (in the US) is a commodity equal to that of religion and the two-party system. They are used as excuses - factors - evidence in the pursuit of control. @yabberefugee is right when he says " ... let's just quit "identifying" by race." Unfortunately, you do not understand what it means so you naïvely quote MLK and treat it as profound enlightenment. Racial indignity is a concoction created by opportunistic entities that have succeeded in befuddling you (as well as great masses of others) for their own gain. What I'm saying is that your words here contribute to the problem ..... not to the solution.
     
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    First you say I “insinuate” racism will not go away and then you agree with me?

    Then I state racism needs to be identified by those who feel victims of racism and you say I don’t understand racism? What is your understanding? I can learn.

    Jerry Lewis’ complexion? What does that even mean?

    You go on about white cars and racism? I’m hope that makes sense in your mind but you must live in non sequitur city.

    But thanks for the condescension. Coming from you it means a lot.
     
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    All I did was tell it like it is. I can't say anything else even if you want to hate other races, that is up to you. I just vented my opinion and that is it.
    You just get my opinions which are honest and serious. You can find humor but I make sense in all of this. You just want to ignore the true facts and that's OK if you want to do so. These white supremacist groups are out-and-out wrong. You can ignore my fact because my facts that I stated are true and if you want to ignore this, that's you opinion and it's not my problem whatsoever. That's all I'm going to say for now.
     
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