Raider fans you are either an OAKLAND Raider fan or not a Raider fan.

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  1. 9/11 was an inside job

    9/11 was an inside job Well-Known Member

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    Just to make it clear I am not a Raiders fan. I am a "LOS ANGELES" Rams fan. I rooted against them the last 22 years when they were in st louis,if they dont play in LA,they are not the Rams.:rolleyes:


    This poster here hit the nail right on the head.could not have said it better myself.:thup:

    I'm not just "A Raider." I'm an "OAKLAND Raider."

    Scott is my first gov't name and my last gov't name is Williams.

    Just like Oakland is the first name of the team and Raiders is the last name of the team.

    So IF you really a "Raider" don't forget you need to be a "OAKLAND Raider."

    could not have said it better myself.:thup::clap2:

    The fans in LA that wanted them back are phony fraud football fans because they are not true Raider fans same as the Vegas fans that want them because true Raider fans know they belong in Oakland.If they dont play in Oakland,they are not the Raiders. any Raider fan that would cheer on the Las Vegas Raiders is a fraud football fan.

    Same with the Charger fans from san diego that still cheer them on or the fans in LA that embrace them.

    and of course my Rams are FINALLY the Rams again.That was a phony fraud team that played in st louis the last 22 years.The one and only Rams team is the LOS ANGELES Rams,there is no other.same with the Raiders and Chargers.

    Like I said,this person so much nailed it. the majority of people dont go around changing their first names in life. Unless it is an embarrassing name like Ass or something like that people keep their first and last names they were born with.

    The Chargers and Raiders are known as the SAN DIEGO Chargers and Raiders as OAKLAND Raiders,both are fraud teams if they are not playing in their cities they belong in.

    Oh and yeah I know the Rams were born in Cleveland but that is not their home they belong at. If you were born in texas and lived there for five years but you moved to Detroit and lived there your whole life,Detroit is your REAL home,not Texas.Same applies to the Rams as well with the Chargers ESPECIALLY them since they were only in LA one year prior to the 57 they played in san diego.


    got it? good.
     
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    gc17 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Been a Raider fan for 57 years, I went to games with my Dad at Frank Youell Field , hard wooden bench seats and a lousy team. Raiders as depicted by their logo are pirates and as we all know pirates move around. I myself have lived in Colorado for 40 years, I left Oakland too, mainly because Oakland is a liberal sh*thole that needs leaving doesn't mean I hate MY Raiders. I do get a chance to go back to Oakland to catch a couple of games and visit family. I'll follow them to hell and back. Teams are businesses and do what businesses do or try to do and that is make money. Oakland WILL NOT come into the 21st century and build a new stadium even when Raider ownership agreed to help with the cost, after all the city and the fans benefit. Screw Oakland and their city govt for being so short sighted. Raiders forever even if they play on the moon.
     
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    9/11 was an inside job Well-Known Member

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    If you cheer them on if they go to Vegas you are a fair weather Raider fan,a flip flooper who supports them when they flip flop all the time.

    If they dont play in Oakland,they are not the Raiders. It was bad enough when they moved to LA,they did not fit in there.It wasnt the same. They were never supported in LA. they had half empty stadiums all the time.even when they were great out there they were never supported.same thing will happen in Vegas but will be only worse.It is the most poor city in the country.Most its residents have to work two jobs to pay the bills. They will be an even bigger joke in Vegas being called the Raiders since Nevada is nothing but deserts.Pirates dont sail in from a desert.duh.:rolleyes: LA at LEAST has an ocean.

    Oh please,stop putting all the blame on Oakland for them leaving. Mark Davis is the MAIN culprit and get your facts straight. Mark Davis NEVER tried to get anything done in Oakland. He put ALL his money into carson buying all the land in carson but would not buy any land in oakland.

    THEN when carson failed and that was not approved by the owners,he then never once went back to Oakland and try and get a deal done with them as required by NFL rules.He VIOLATED NFL relocation rules and as a result,the city of oakland is suing Davis and the NFL for not following relocation rules.

    Oh and the city of Oakland with Ronnie Lott leading a group of oakland investors,they had a very viable plan they presented to the NFL and the NFL did not even look at it. All the more they will win their lawsuit against the corrupt NFL after Goddel lied to everybody in the country saying they did not have a viable plan.

    Oh and vegas is twice as bit a Shithole as Oakland is so you are in favor of a team moving from a shithole into a place that is TWICE as big a shithole? wow thats real logical.:rolleyes:
     
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    9/11 was an inside job Well-Known Member

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    I myself am an LOS ANGELES Rams fan. same with Oakland,if the Rams dont play in LA,then they are not the Rams. When they left LA,I rooted for all the other teams to beat them each week same as all the loyal REAL charger fans in san diego are doing with the chargers.

    Most of them true charger fans are not going up there and cheering them on are rooting against them same as I did with the Rams when they left LA for that joke smalltown hicktown st louis. kudos to the loyal SAN DIEGO fans for not being on their bandwagon and being one of those blind-i will follow them wherever they will go BS.

    this person below hit the nail on the head in their post.:rock_slayer: could not have said it better myself.:applause:



    I'm not a blind follower of any organization!They are screwing over their loyal customers/fans!Extremly Not a chance in hell im going there!

    Kudso to marshawn lync h as well.,when he signed with the raiders he said he signed on to play for the OAKLAND Raiders,no other city Raiders team.:clapping::applause:
     
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    I've been a New England Patriot fan since the 1970's. I hate the Raiders. The refs gave them a playoff game against us in 1976. Two years later, they paralyzed our receiver, Darryl Stingley. I hate the Darth Vader costumes and the gang associations. I've heard the Oakland Coliseum is the most dangerous stadium in the NFL. And I hate the West Coast.

    But I'm sure Raider fans hate the Pats because of the Tuck Rule.
     
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    9/11 was an inside job Well-Known Member

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    The part you mentioned on hearing that the Oakland Coliseum is the most dangerous stadium in the NFL could not be any further from the truth.You have been misinformed by people that are going by what they remember from the LOS ANGELES crowds. The Oakland fans could not be any further from the truth.they are a 180 degrees different than the fans that were in LA.

    The LA fans gave the Oakland fans an unfair bad rap that they are still having to hear about all these years later after coming back.when they were in LA.most the fans that embraced them were gangstas always starting fights in the stands all the time even among themselves. Howie Long and many former LA Raider players stopped taking their familys to games because they feared for the lives of their familys.

    for the most part,opposing teams fans always enjoy their experience in oakland and leave wanting to come back. the LA crowds whenever an apposing player of the other team got hurt they were so classless they always cheered all the time. The oakland fans are not like that at all.matter of fact one time on monday night football game against the packers even though they were getting blown out in that game after brett farve set an NFL record,the crowds cheered him for his feat.PLUS they even had signs on the wall in sympathetic for Farve because he has lost his father to cancer the previous week.they had signs reading things like-sorry about your father brett,you have our sympathys.

    If THATS not a class act i dont know what is. No whoever you heard that from on the oakland crowds have been greatly misinformed.they are connecting them to the LA crowds.

    Its just people see them in their craxy outfit costumes and they automatically think cause they are scary and crazy looking,that the fans are as well.not true at all.
     
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    Oakland is a sewer, and the Coliseum is a dump.
     
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    So, I suppose one way to look at this is that the ghetto that is Oakland became too ghetto for their Raiders. Love to see them now in Vegas. As with so many things CA, the infra is crumbling, the folks who produce just have to go elsewhere... Still, seems strange that it will now be the Los Vegas Raiders. Perhaps they'll change their team name to something vastly more appropriate to strip life...
     
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    9/11 was an inside job Well-Known Member

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    why are all you flip flopper pretender Raider fans ignorant of the facts that oakland has nothing on vegas as a ghetto.:rolleyes: you all think just because of the glltz and glamor of downtown that vegas is just that,all glitz and glamor unaware that outside of downtown,it is a depressing city to live in.Vegas is most poor population in the country and has the lowest education in the country,people are so poor there they have to work two jobs to support their familysy and stay off welfare and food stamps. Oakland on the other hand is a thriving community
     
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    No, Oakland is a sewer, with one of the highest crime rates in the country.
     
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    We will allow you to enter the borders of Nevada to cheer on the LAS VEGAS RAIDERS anytime you like. LOL
     
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    another pretender flip flopper raider fan.
     
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    Oh....you hurt my feelings. LOL
     
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    yep i know i did. the truth hurts that you a FAKE raider fan.TRUE Raider fans wont cheer them on as they did not when they were in LA.

    they will be even more disasterous in vegas when they are losing than they were in LA with the same old story of half empty stadiums just like in LA.

    al davis realised he screwed up moving them to LA,he once said he missed the loud roar of the OAKLAND crowds after being there for just five years. his son dumb and dumber is even a bigger idiot than al for even thinking of moving them with the most loyal fans in the bay area.
     
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    Vegas giants Banned

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    Remember when you check in to your vegas hotel and eat in a vegas restaurant and drink in a vegas bar you are now paying to support us. Thanks. LOL
     
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    My last visit to that city was in 1990. Seen it ....
     
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    Must not be a REAL RAIDER fan then. LOL
     
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    I was chatting with 49er great Leo Nomelini around 1981 about the Raiders going to La and he said we fans that had season's tickets could not stop Al Davis from moving the team and he was right. RIP LEO. Few fans got to know you after pro football but I did when showing him property in Fremont, CA.

     
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    you pro vegas fake Raider fans will be crying your eyes out when the raiders dont move.you cant find ONE EXPERT ECONOMIST who has come out and said the raiders move to vegas is a good deal.In fact they have all agred it is the worst deal in sports history.:D:roflol:

    NFL relocations are KILLING the NFL other than the rams going back to LA. experts tried to warn the NFL owners it would be disasterous for the chargers to move to LA.that nobody would show up for those games there,they were right,all sixteen of their games are ROAD games,the opposing teams are the majority of the fans that show up for those games.:roflol:

    they called it correct on the chargers and they are right about vegas as well.

    what none of you delusional fake pro vegas fans understand is the REASON the NFL owners approved the move of the raiders to vegas is they hate the davis family and want him to fail.that is WHY they gave the second option to the chargers to move into LA with the Rams because they like spanos but hate davis. they knew the raiders would succeed in LA because they have a good fan base there. they ALSO know that the Raiders will fail in vegas because it is the WORST DEAL in sports history with the most poor education in the country and most familys having to work two jobs to support themselves.:grin:

    and what is NOT being reported in the mainstream media,is they are encountering obstacle after obstacle with one major roadblock after another coming up.

    that was not the case with the Rams in going to LA,the situations got BETTER each month,not worse witch is whats happeing in vegas.:roflol:

    its only going to get worse in trying to get to vegas down the road,not better as it was for the rams.their obstacles got better and better,the raiders problems are getting worse and worse.:grin:
     
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    Your bitter tears are like fine wine to me. Go LAS VEGAS Raiders! LOL
     
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    here is just one of DOZENS of problems mark davis is going to have to face that the people who think Vegas is a done deal are in for a rude awakening on.LOL

    Yeah, really good, you dumb-ass, bum politicians in LV.
    Gift a $750 million tax subsidy, when your homeless issue has been vastly ignored, your school systems rank second-to last in the country, the gang violence is at an all-time high, and your social services programs are lacking $$$ and assistance.

    Southern Nevada among nation’s highest in homeless population:grin:

    PLUS it is much more difficult to relocate now than it was back then when Davis moved them to LA.there are relocation guildlines you have to follow that you did not have to fllow back then and davis did not honor those rules

    . oakland has filed a lawsuit against the NFL and the raiders for violating those relocation rules they did not follow.they are prepared to take it all the way to the supreme court and the NFL will lose their asses in court if they try and leave.they have hired the best anti trust lawyer in the business who has had many succesful lawsuits against the NFL in the past as well.
     
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    I don't deny any of that. But the people here support the move. You lost we won. LOL
     
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    the one that will be whining fake flip flooper fan is YOU when the NFL and the raiders lose their ass in court when they try and move.oakland is prepared to take this all the way to the supreme court because they have a solid case against the NFL for davis violatiing NFL relocation rules.:grin:
     
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    Who recalls the great Elroy "Crazy Legs" Hirsch? I have to go way back but now think the Rams are one team I have not seen live at a game I was attending.

     
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    oakland has not lost anything,they are prepared to go all the way to the supreme court.you missed the part where this is the worst deal in sports history and the only reason the NFL approved the move cause they know davis cannot pull it off as kroneke was able to.:grin:
     

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