Raider fans you are either an OAKLAND Raider fan or not a Raider fan.

Yes cling to your last hopes and prayers....it gives you a reason to get up in the morning. LOL

 

Then you have nothing to worry about ....right? But you sound very worried. There is Oakland....a crappy town that does not support the team.....and there is the new shiny Las Vegas where the rich and powerful from all over the world come to play. Tough choice. LOL

 

you cant stand toe to toe in a debate when you know you cant counter facts.LOL congrats of your ignorance of how davis and the NFL will lose their ass in court.lol

 

Well we already won.....so there is that. LOL

 

oh i am not worried,i just hate it when people like you claim BS that its all over when it is FAR from over. i see you have to stoop to untruths when you are losing a debate. that is BS they dont support the team,you have never watched a game there in oakland cause if you had,you would know that place is ALWAYS packed.you lost your credibility right there. EVERYTIME you turn on a game in OAKLAND that place is ALWAYS packed. nice lie to try and save face while insecure about the truth they are encountering obstacle after obstacle.

NOBODY here believed me four years ago when i came here and said the Rams would come back to LA.you no doubt from your ignorant posts,thought that way as well no doubt.LOL

 

Support the team and they will no leave. You lost. Its ok that you lost but you need to face it

 

I happen to have gone to a large number of Raider games when they first were at Oakland. The Oakland Tribune for a few years was my source of tickets to games. This meant I had to sit all over the Coliseum.

Actually I believe on this forum, I am the sole person that earned my living working on the Coliseum there and the Arena the Warriors play at. I had my hard hat ruined by a heavy object on the Coliseum part of the job.

I was able to finally get seasons tickets since they had a waiting list. I was one angry fan when they took off for Los Angeles. I went back to being a 49er fan and quit being a Raiders fan. I don't give a damn where they play.

Oakland lacks the money to keep the raiders. There I gave the reason for the move. The city is one of the poorest in this country. When we built the Coliseum, it was supposed to be one of the best places to play football. The old Al Davis tales of him watering the football field probably were due to the water table beneath the field rather than him hosing it down. When I worked on it, the place looked to me like a huge pit in the ground and my part was the foundations for both the stadium and the arena. I was a fan before the fields and left them when they took off for LA. When teams must play in Las Vegas, they will suffer from the heat of that city. Many teams may hate the Raiders.

I have a hunch for training they won't train in Nevada but will come back to the Bay Area to train.

 

there you go with your BS again that i lost,AGAIN oakland is prepared to go all the way to the supreme court with this with the best anti trust lawyer. YOU need to face THAT and stop making up BS they dont support them.

 

SCOTUS will never hear the case. Its over johnny....its over!

 

here is a hankerchef for your crying and unable to face facts they have a lawsuit coming their way.pats on shoulder to confront denial mode.

the fact you are ignorant of facts how oakland is going to go all the way to the supreme court with this when that day comes when they try and move and keep saying BS that its over again and again with no evidence to back you up,just proves you have no crediblity and you SEVERLY lost your credibility major big time when they dont support them.

you have proven in spades you have not watched a SINGLE game in OAKLAND this year.

anybody who has knows there is never an empty seat in the house. so since you have ti LIE in desperation knowing you cant counter facts,you lost all credibility and are no longer worthy of my time.

i am not worried,unlike you,i KNOW the facts and dont ignore them as you have and make things up that are not true to try and make yourself believe you know what your talking about.

 

Wanna see some pictures of the stadium? Its gonna be purty!

http://www.businessinsider.com/raid...-of-media-exposure-a-year-from-the-raiders-10

 

Now now....I said we will let you in. Just stay on the strip.....we don't want your kind mixing too much with the locals

 

i see you were talking to yourself in the last three posts since nobody read those BS ramblings of yours after you established you have no credibility with BS posts that oakland does not support them. and are obviously butthurt they have a lawsuit coming their way down the road that will stop the move.LOL

like i said,you remind me of all those st louis apologists who were so positive the rams were never coming back to LA who kept saying crap like kroneke is just using the land purchase for leverage for a new stadium in st louis,the NFL always uses LA as leverage for new stadiums,the rams are going nowhere blah blah blah blah. you should be best friends with those psychotic st louis apologists who could not handle pesky facts,you fit right in there with them.same as them,all you ever offer is :blah blah blah blah: and run off from facts and make things up like BS about poor attendance proving you have NEVER watched a raider game in OAKLAND.

 

Well I will be watching them in Las Vegas maybe as soon as 2019. Lol

 

Well after the Raiders left you once before for LA and you rightly so angry as hell about it,I can understand WHY if they went to Vegas you could not care anymore because i could not support a team that left me TWICE if i grew up in the bay area.the majority of the people in the bay are wont either,you can go around the whole stadium and ask people if they will go to vegas if they leave and you will find the majority wont. I did the same thing you did when the Rams left LA.I rooted against them each week and cheered and the chargers became my new team.It wasnt the same though cause i did not live and die with the chargers as i did the rams.

See you are not aware of some of the facts but i enjoy my discussions with YOU.you have not ignored facts i have posted nor make up lies that the fans in oakland dont support the Raiders.I thank you for that.WHY people feel the need to make up lies when they cant counter facts makes me sick.

While that is true that OAKLAND lacks the money to keep the Raiders what you also did NOT mention is that they had an investment group led by Ronnie Lott that DID have the money to keep the Raiders there.All dumb and dumber mark davis had to do was work with the Lott group and let them buy a majority of the share to keep the Raiders there.Lotts group HAD the finances to do this.I see you are not aware of that fact. They HAD a very viable stadium plan but ******* Roger Goddel never took the time to look at and made the BS lie it was not a viable plan. He never even looked at it,those are the FACTS.pure and simple as any OAKLAND resident will tell you.

Mark Davis never ONCE tried to get anything done in Oakland,that is a violation of NFL relocation policys the NFL has in place.thats what one particular vegas psychotic nutcase around here keeps ignoring.Oakland has a very clear cut case against the NFL they will lose their asses on if they try and move.they are prepared to take it all the way to the supreme court if davis does not try and come back and work with oakland.

Davis has tried to get a deal done everywhere EXCEPT oakland,he went and bought land in carson when he was trying to move there but never bought land in oakland.that is a violation of NFL relocation policys.He will lose his ass in court if he goes ahead with the move.any lawyer who has studied the facts will tell you the same thing.LOL

uh dude you dont know a single thing about Oakland,they are thriving community with many jobs on the rise. you got the wrong city.VEGAS is the city that is poor.Oakland has NOTHING on vegas as far as being a poor city. you venture outside the city with the fancy hotels and casinos,vegas is a DUMP MUCH worse than oakland.

hey since you used to work in the stadium in oakland,you might try and tell that vegas apologists who keeps sprouting off BS that oakland does not support the raiders is the biggest lie of the century.

did you watch that raiders game three years ago when they were on thursday night football against the chiefs when they were playing them on a cold damp night and in a driving freezing pouring rainstorm and their record at the time was 0-11? if you did,then I am sure you remember as well as I did even though they were winless at that point the raider fans STILL packed them in at night that game and there was not one empty seat.the ONLY time the seats were empty was when the fans left at halftime for refreshments.Jesus christ,why wont people watch the games FIRST to save themselves from showing how stupid t they are of the true facts?LOL

and that has been the case with EVERY game in oakland.thats why i wont bother with him,he lost his credibility with all that BS and is not worth my time anymore.Your posts while the facts are not true at times,other times they are and your posts are at LEAST reasonable.

matter of fact for the first time staring two years ago,they have a WAITING list for tickets and people say they are not supported. what morons.

Look at these pics below. I dont see an empty seat in the house.do you?

here is the proof in the pudding that debunks the lies of the vegas apologists that raider fans in oakland dont not support them.Look at all these pics.

Looks like a full house to me.I dont see an empty seat in the house do you? yep we got some phychotic nutcase here who is so butthurt the Raiders are going to lose their ass in court and wont go to vegas he is grasping st straws trying to desperatly convince himself OAKAND fans dont support the raiders. He reminds me of the crazy psyhotic people who kept saying i was a fool and was babbling and had no clue what i was talking about when i told them three years ago the rams were coming back to LA in the next couple of years.comedy gold.

 

you vegas apologists just like the st louis apologists from three years ago who were ALSO soooo sure i was wrong that the Rams were never coming back to LA,just like they did not do,same as the st louis apologists,you guys NEVER research the FACTS,if you ever bothered to do so,you would not end up with egg all over your face with your pathetic ramblings i debunked that oakland fans dont pack the house in and support the raiders every sunday. you one VEGAS fake fan proved in spades you have NEVER watched a Raiders game in oakland and as a result prove you have no credibility here AND have egg on your face same as the st louis apologists from three years ago still do after telling me i was wrong about the Rams coming back to LA.comedy gold,you guys kill me the BS you make up when you cant counter facts same as the st louis apologists fans.no different.

vegas apologists fans and st louis apologist fans are the most wacky lunatics i have ever meant hands down.

 

When you come to watch our Las Vegas raiders try to behave. Our police will not put up with any black hole nonsense. Did you see the pics of the stadium? Lol

 

someone is talking to themselves again i see.

a certain vegas apologist here does the same thing a butthurt st louis apologists i know at a site does who hates it he lost his rams to LA. he posted this pic here below of the rams eagles game last sunday trying to convince people that LA fans are not showing up for games there now.


problem WITH this disinformation piece of his and his trolling is that this pic was taken TWO HOURS "BEFORE" the game started.

here is what the stadium REALLY looked like AFTER the game began.


http://www.gettyimages.com/event/philadelphia-eagles-v los-angeles-rams-700070801?irgwc=1&esource=AFF_GI_IR_Skimbit Ltd._10078&asid=Skimbit Ltd.&cid=GI#trey-burton-of-the-philadelphia-eagles-celebrates-after-scoring-a-picture-id889794606



as any OBJECTIVE person see.that st louis apologist LIED about the attendance at the eagles/rams game same as that vegas apologists as i proved,.LIED about the raider fans not supporting the team in oakland where i just proved they PACK them in every sunday same as the rams do now in LA.

EVERY ONE OF THOSE PICS of that eagles/Ramss game in that link i provided shows that the stadium contrary to the lies of that butthurt st louis fan.that the place was PACKED. same as my pics of the raiders games in oakland proved they pack them in there as well every sunday.

that vegas apologists has proved in spades that he NEVER has watched a raiders game in oakland.

 

this link here proves that st louis apologist from that other site is a troll who LIES when he cant refute facts that the rams/eagles game was packed,this link has MANY pics in them that show the stadium was packed.LOL
http://www.gettyimages.com/event/philadelphia-eagles-v los-angeles-rams-700070801?irgwc=1&esource=AFF_GI_IR_Skimbit Ltd._10078&asid=Skimbit Ltd.&cid=GI#trey-burton-of-the-philadelphia-eagles-celebrates-after-scoring-a-picture-id889794606

And I also already posted that video earlier of that Eagles fans that attended the game who had VIDEO proof the Rams game was packed as well.LOL

Now at the BEGINNING of this season,that is true the LA coliseum was half empty because they were sick of the product that was on the field last year.however THIS year with a much better product on the field,the fans have been packing them in lately as the eagles game proved.

If people are too lazy to click on that link i provided,here are a couple of pics as well i was able to find that show the rams game was packed. Looks like in the foreground to me behind all these cheerleaders here the whole stadium is packed.LOL and this other pic below it what it looked everywhere as well.LOL





now the ONLY reason i show these ram pics here is because like i said,this vegas apologists here is the same as him,when he cant refute pesky facts that the oakland fans pack them in every sunday and there is not an empty seat,he LIES as i just proved in those pics i posted earlier of all those packed raider games with no empty seats.two birds of a feather flock together.his ass got OWNED by me.

and he has proved in spades he has never watched a raider game in oakland cause anybody who watched that game like you did obviously three years ago when the raiders got off to an 0-11 start,they know same as me and you that DESPITE that,the raiders on a thursday night game against the chiefs in a driving,pouring rainstorm on a very cold night,that there was not an EMPTY seat in that whole stadium and that has been the case in EVERY game with them the last three years.

that vegas apologist got his ass OWNE by me just now.

 

Someone is really upset his team is moving to a better city. Have you seen pics of the new stadium. Its going to be beautiful. Now...don't speed on I - 15. LOL

 

I love your pathetic ramblings you think i am a raider fans when i have said MANY times i am a LA RAMS FAN.lol Someone is crying in defeat that there is a lawsuit waiting down the stretch that the raiders are going to lose in court and he wont get to be the fake raider fan he is.


oh and here is a crying towel to join that st louis apologists who tried to lie to every body that the eagles/rams game last suday was half empty at the LA coliseum.

you two should marry each other,you have to stoop to posting lies that the stadiums are emoty when i just proved in BOTH cases of the Rams AND raiders,they PACK THEM IN EVERY SUNDAY.

two birds of a feather flock together.

sorry you cant handle pesky facts there is a lawsuit that will go to court in a couple years planned and you wont get your raiders and will have to cry with that st louis apologist fan in denial that the rams were not going to leave st louis and go back to LA.like him,you are butthurt over these facts i keep posting but you ignore.

 

Wow you are so angry that it is a done deal that the Raiders are coming to Vegas. Its ok for you to be upset but you really need to accept reality. I am happy to look at this lawsuit you rave about. What court is it filed in? Link the info so we can all read about this devastating lawsuit. LOL

 

whine whine whine in defeat and does a vegas apologist fraud fan who is obviously butthurt and angry he wont get the Raiders in vegas when the lawsuit happens . oh poor thing.hee hee. same as that st louis apologist troll from that other site who had to lie that the rams and eagles game was half empty as i exposed his lies.

as i said before,two birds that flock together who need to get married to each other,a perfect couple they would both make.

 

Crazy Legs Hersh was so popular he even made an appearance on The Munsters once.lol

the media always bragged about the st louis frauds team that played in stank louis the past 22 years show they had the greatest how on turf during the warner/faulk years.that was NOTHING compared to his day and age when the Rams played on natural turf. They did NOTHING compared to what Hersh did the fact his records were about the same just slightly less than what they did in stank louis on artificial turf. that st louis frauds team in st louis could not hold a candle to hersh or carry his diaper cause they would not have even come close to breaking his records he fact Hersh played on a NATURAL surface and their recieving yards were just slightly more than his was on ARTIFICIAL turf.