Ralph Schoenman's Lecture on the Kennedy Assassination

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  1. resisting arrest

    resisting arrest Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Ralph Schoenman was the former secretary of world-renown philosopher, mathematician and Nobel Laureate
    Sir Bertrand Russell.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ralph_Schoenman

    [video=youtube;pC0mTRLhLiw]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pC0mTRLhLiw&list=WL&index=43[/video]

    [video=youtube;Ri4l-IdazEk]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ri4l-IdazEk[/video]

    [video=youtube;s7y8SwUK4yU]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s7y8SwUK4yU[/video]
     
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    resisting arrest Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    [video=youtube;g7-mK_DsdaU]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7-mK_DsdaU&index=35&list=WL[/video]
     
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    Soupnazi Well-Known Member

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    There is no evidence that Oswald's interest in Marxism was faked. All evidence demonstrates it was legitimate. He flew commercial to Helsinki.

    Oswald had no such clearance for the codes which the speaker claims he gave to the Soviet.

    The entire thing is delusion
     
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    9/11 was an inside job Well-Known Member

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    you took someone here to school major big time who was only able to whine and cry in defeat in their post.:roflol::thumbsup::worship::clapping::laughing:
     
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    How does someone like Oswald get out of the marines on a hardship ...and within weeks get himself into the Soviet Union in the middle of the cold war...and then get himself OUT again and back into this country...all while getting an honorable discharge?

    Oh and how did he manage to teach himself to speak fluent Russian before he went there?
     
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    Soupnazi Well-Known Member

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    Yes I did thank you
     
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    Soupnazi Well-Known Member

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    Nothing mysterious about it.

    He was in fact dishonorably discharged ( not hardship ). People were always allowed to leave the US and travel abroad even to the ussr. The ussr kept people in not out.

    The details of his return to the US is well documented and not mysterious the ussr frankly was glad to see him go although he went through months of red tape to arrange for his wife to accompany him.

    He was not fluent although he spoke it enough to get along and got better as he lived there.

    Nothing to see and no mystery
     
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    9/11 was an inside job Well-Known Member

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    that person always whine and cries in defeat because when he cant counter pesky facts laid out in these videos as he could not,his standard rebutall in defeat is always the one liner-Its been debunked by the warren commission which is the only thing thats been debunked is the warren commission itself.:roflol:

    so since that is always his rebuttal is always that one liner-its been debunked,that IS running off all the time which he denies that little truth.only problem is everybody else but him see's that truth that he indeed runs off.:roflol: but the whole world is wrong and he is right though is his logic so his logic is everybody else in the world is wrong that he runs off and he is right that he does not run off.:roflol:


    nope not accepting the truth in these videos of yours, that IS running off whining in defeat.hee hee.
     
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    Soupnazi Well-Known Member

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    Quoting yourself now? Very immature.

    The only one whining and crying in defeat is you. Like your buddy 7forever every claim you have made has been crushed, shredded and proven wrong by facts and evidence. Two things you have never posted.

    You pretend to ignore but read anything and then comment on it indirectly because you have nothing except childish taunts. Everyone reading however knows the truth and that truth is you have been stomped.
     
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    since this is so much the truth it gots to be repeated again.lol
     
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    It's amazing what happens when the Nazi is forced to actually SAY anything, He invariably makes bombastic claims which are demonstrably false.

    A. Oswald did in fact get a hardship discharge and was put into the reserve system
    B. Oswald was given an HONORABLE discharge subsequently
    C. Oswald's wife did not "join him" in Russia. He went there unmarried and married a Russian woman.
    D. Travel between the US and the USSR at the height of the cold war was extremely unusual.
     
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    Yes I sit corrected he was granted a hardship discharge and placed on reserve status.

    The rest of what I stated was factual and you are simply the only one being bombastic and quite dishonest.

    I state he and Marina waited months for permission for her to accompany him and that was correct what you are wrong about is that I meant accompanying him to the USSR. The months of waiting was due to USSR red tape getting permission for her to accompany him back to the USA.

    Travel between the USA and USSR even during the cold war was actually not unusual at all.

    There is no mystery about his whole trip as you imply

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    Yes I sit corrected he was granted a hardship discharge and placed on reserve status.

    The rest of what I stated was factual and you are simply the only one being bombastic and quite dishonest.

    I state he and Marina waited months for permission for her to accompany him and that was correct what you are wrong about is that I meant accompanying him to the USSR. The months of waiting was due to USSR red tape getting permission for her to accompany him back to the USA.

    Travel between the USA and USSR even during the cold war was actually not unusual at all.

    There is no mystery about his whole trip as you imply
     
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    La Times

    WASHINGTON — Bill Clinton was one of thousands of students, wealthy retirees and other American sightseers who poured into the Soviet Union in 1969 as entry barriers were easing dramatically, those associated with the country said Thursday after President Bush made Clinton's trip a campaign issue.

    In 1969 travel barriers were just then easing...Oswald went there nine years earlier

    Wrong again Soupy
     
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    Soupnazi Well-Known Member

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    Not wrong.

    Easing does not mean impossible or unheard of before it eased
     
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    which is why its amazing that he comes back to embarrass himself all the time.lol
     
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    resisting arrest Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Your a$$ got owned big time. Bwahahahahahahah !!!!!

    [video=youtube;fRamB30E9mU]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fRamB30E9mU[/video]

     
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    No I did not.

    Clearly the opposite.

    Now you are just acting like 911wasaninside merely childish in the face of utter defeat
     
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    Travel restrictions were EASING...nine years after Oswald did it...so yea...they were stricter.

    It absolutely WAS unusual for an ordinary citizen to go there and return that easily.
     
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    No one said it was not stricter it simple was not impossible or unheard of.

    In fact as pointed out he waded through months of red tape which was not unusual for such travel at all
     
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    But then I never claimed it was impossible.

    Please give a link showing the "months of red tape"
     
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    Months of red tape?

    In October 1959, just before turning 20, Oswald traveled to the Soviet Union, a trip he planned well in advance. Along with his self-taught Russian, he had saved $1,500 of his Marine Corps salary.[n 3] Oswald spent two days with his mother in Fort Worth, then embarked by ship from New Orleans on September 20 to Le Havre, France, and immediately proceeded to the United Kingdom. Arriving in Southampton on October 9, he told officials he had $700 and planned to remain in the United Kingdom for one week before proceeding to a school in Switzerland. However, on the same day, he flew to Helsinki, where he was issued a Soviet visa on October 14. Oswald left Helsinki by train on the following day, crossed the Soviet border at Vainikkala, and arrived in Moscow on October 16.[56] His visa, valid only for a week, was due to expire on October 21.[57]
     
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    You got owned again. I feel like Clint Eastwood in this scene of this movie.

    [video=youtube;X021H4LImUY]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X021H4LImUY&index=5&list=PL1IIRVPwL5-UjixJf7ikpu-5dkka0zi3P[/video]


     
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    His boss sure pays him the big bucks.Nobody would constantly come back for the constant arse beatings they get here everyday for FREE,no way in hell.lol gotta be paid VERY well for that.lol
     
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    Yes I clearly stated that those months of dealing with soviet redtape were to LEAVE the USSR with his wife not to enter.

    Try and stay on topic

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    It is you constantly getting those beatings so who pays you to be here?
     
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    Do you even remember the nonsense you post?
     

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