Hey folks, this is going to be a big one,... So big in fact, that this vote has been split into seven different parts. Original Discussion Thread: http://www.politicalforum.com/index...nact-comprehensive-immigration-reform.535480/ The plan here, is that we will vote on each of the parts, each containing a number of items, and at the end of that voting we'll have a list of options ranked from what we feel are the most important to implement down to the least. I'll then go through that resulting list from top to bottom adding each item ranked above the status quo option to a comprehensive plan... with the exception of items that conflict with each-other, in which case, whichever item was ranked higher gets added. In the final (comprehensive) stage, this resulting comprehensive plan will be pitted against others that have been suggested (including a couple by the senate) and we'll vote one last time to see which comprehensive plan we like best. So, for this particular topic of immigration, in order to fully participate in crafting the final resulting plan, you should try to cast a ballot in each of the following threads, particularly the five in the middle... What is the Most Important Immigration Category Needing to be Dealt With? How To Enact Immigration Reform? (Undocumented Immigrants & Visa Overstays) How To Enact Immigration Reform? (Immigrants Wishing to Immigrate Legally) < (You Are Here) How To Enact Immigration Reform? (Immigrants Who've Already Achieved Legal Status) How To Enact Immigration Reform? (Immigration Systems, Security, & Enforcement) How To Enact Immigration Reform? (Foreign Outreach/Other) How To Enact Immigration Reform? (Comprehensive) And I know I always say that its important to rank a lot of options in your ballot, but given the nature of this issue I would say that that goes double for this set of votes in particular. If you want your ballot to be comprehensive and have an impact on the comprehensive results then please try to rank at least one option from each of the main colored letter sections. (i.e. at least one H, I, J, K, L, M, N, O, and P) You can of course, and are highly encouraged, to rank even more than that. Also, please excuse my shorthand... CitPath = Path to Citizenship Probat = Probationary Period/Temporary status ResStat = Permanent non-citizen Residency status GrCards = Green Cards w/i = within mo = months yr = years How To Enact Immigration Reform? (Immigrants Wishing to Immigrate Legally) H0. ResStat if U.S. company pledges to employ immigrant for 5 or more years H1. Raise H1B Cap (110K Temp Workers per yr). Further raises possible dependent on demand (up to 180K per Year) H2. Raise H1B Cap (110-180K Temp Workers per Year). Make it a first come first serve waiting list instead of a lottery H3. Add 25K H1B set asides for immigrants w/high value advanced degrees H4. Crack down on companies who train workers in the U.S. and then ship them back over seas to work H5. Keep H1B Program as is (85K Temp Workers per yr) H6. End H1B Temporary Work Visa Program I0. Keep Educational Visa Programs as is I1. Exempt Educational Visa Holders from Green Card Limits if grad+STEM degree&job offer J0. Keep Exceptional Talent Visa Program as is J1. Exempt Exceptional Talent Visa Holders from Green Card Limits K0. Keep Permanent Visa Lottery Program as is (50K GrCards per year) K1. End Permanent Visa Lottery Program L0. Automatic Citizenship if Immigrant Involved in Combat Situation while serving U.S. Military L1. Change to 7 years of Militarily Service instead of 12 for GrCard L2. Keep Military Visa Program as is (GrCard after 12 yr service) M0. Exempt Children/Spouses of Military Members from Immigration Limits M1. Expedited Green Cards for Children or Spouses Only for Military Members N0. Exempt Children/Spouses/Parents of Legal Immigrants from Immigration Limits N1. GrCards for Spouses, Young Unmarried Children, and Parents of Legal Immigrants N2. GrCards for Spouses and Young Unmarried Children only of Legal Immigrants. No more Parents O0. Exempt Children/Spouses/Parents of Citizens from Immigration Limits. No more Siblings or Married Children over 30 O1. GrCards for Spouses, Young Unmarried Children, and Parents + Siblings and Older Children of Citizens (Max 480K per yr) O2. GrCards for Spouses and Young Unmarried Children only of Citizens (Max 480K per yr). No more Parents or Siblings P0. CitPath Instant for Asylum Seekers/Refugees P1. CitPath after 7 yr Probat for Asylum Seekers/Refugees P2. Require Asylum/Refugee Applications be made in writing from country of origin P3. Asylum Seekers/Refugees Must Obtain and Keep Employment to Stay, Else Deported P4. Asylum Seekers/Refugees Should be Turned Away P5. Asylum Seekers/Refugees Should be Deported P6. Asylum Seekers/Refugees Should be sent to Internment Camps Q0. Parole board hearing for immigrants with upstanding citizens from the local community the immigrants want to reside in Q1. New Startup Visa program implemented for foreign entrepreneurs wanting to start a company in the U.S. Q2. New Point-Based Merit Visa program implemented for education, employment, length of residence etc. Max 250K per Year Q3. New Work Visa program for immigrants wanting to work in construction, long-term care, hospitality etc. Max 200K per Year Q4. New Agriculture Work Visa Program Q5. Agriculture workers who've worked in the industry at least 2 yr, qualify for Green Cards in another 5 years if they stay in the industry Q6. New Volunteer-Based Merit Visa program. For immigrants who work 12 years in approved orgs to improve aspects of home country Q7. Legal Immigrants should be afforded a fast track to citizenship $0. Keep Everything About this part of Immigration System Just The Way it is (Status Quo Option) $1. Don't Feel Qualified/Knowledgeable Enough To Vote In This Poll $2. No Strong Feelings One Way Or The Other To participate in this vote, simply cast your ballot by making a post in this thread with a list of the letters sorted in your order of preference. Spoiler: Example Ballot (note letters don't have to be ranked in order): H2, H4, I3, J0, J1, J2, K1, L3, M4, N5, O6, P5, Q3 You can still add write-ins here, just make sure that they're related to the specific part your voting in (this one is "Immigrants Wishing to Immigrate Legally") and aren't already included as an option in one of the other parts. Also note that 14th Amendment/Birthright citizenship related options are included in the "Immigrants Who've Already Achieved Legal Status" section. BTW, for those who are new to this, this thread is part of a larger series geared towards coming up with and voting on solutions to society's persistent and pressing issues (this being one of the larger ones). Feel free to check the others out if interested: Ranked Vote: Discussion Thread (includes schedule) What To Do To Reduce Partisan Dysfunction In Politics Solutions Oriented Approach to Restoring Meaningful Civil Discourse Spoiler: Ranked Vote Notification List If you want to be added to the list (or taken off), go to this thread and make a post and or vote in the poll: http://www.politicalforum.com/index.php?threads/ranked-vote-contact-list.534668/ @Derideo_Te @Pollycy @fifthofnovember @redeemer216 @BahamaBob @modernpaladin @yiostheoy @Spooky @Jonsa @Crawdadr @Longshot @Distraff @Moi621 @Seth Bullock @Thought Criminal @jmblt2000 @61falcon @mamooth @Chronocide Fiend @Merwen @Bob0627 @fmw @clg311 @Mac-7 @APACHERAT @kazenatsu @Socialism Works @Moonglow @FreshAir @rtts48 @perdidochas @Bridget @Bowerbird @scarlet witch @Andrew Jackson @Sallyally @Kode @crank @Bluesguy @AlifQadr @tealwings @Capt Nice @Moriah @Ndividual @wyly @Woogs @DennisTate @Ritter @Junkieturtle @cerberus @Homer J Thompson @JohnnyMo @Smartmouthwoman @ARDY @reallybigjohnson @Falena @PatrickT @StillBlue @JakeStarkey @Nerd of Liberty @drluggit @PARTIZAN1 @Aleksander Ulyanov @Canell @The Rhetoric of Life @Lucifer @vman12 @btthegreat @Mr_Truth @JakeJ @DoctorWho @Loving91390 Feel free to take your time with this one folks, I know its quite a lot. And also, if you have questions please feel free to ask. Thanks! -Meta
Here's my vote for this section. Not too much to say here really, I don't really feel this is the most important section. But I think the whole lottery thing is silly and should be ended and replaced with something more merit based (and the H1B Visa program should have its own lottery portion stripped out). H2,H3,K1,Q2,Q6,L1,Q3,L0,Q4,J1,H1,J0,Q1,Q0,I1,H0,Q5,H4,H5,I0,M1,O0,M0,N2,O2,Q7,P1,P2,P3,P0,L2,O1,$0,P5,P4,N1,N0,K0,H6 H2. Raise H1B Cap (110-180K Temp Workers per Year). Make it a first come first serve waiting list instead of a lottery H3. Add 25K H1B set asides for immigrants w/high value advanced degrees K1. End Permanent Visa Lottery Program Q2. New Point-Based Merit Visa program implemented for education, employment, length of residence etc. Max 250K per Year Q6. New Volunteer-Based Merit Visa program. For immigrants who work 12 years in approved orgs to improve aspects of home country L1. Change to 7 years of Militarily Service instead of 12 for GrCard Q3. New Work Visa program for immigrants wanting to work in construction, long-term care, hospitality etc. Max 200K per Year L0. Automatic Citizenship if Immigrant Involved in Combat Situation while serving U.S. Military Q4. New Agriculture Work Visa Program J1. Exempt Exceptional Talent Visa Holders from Green Card Limits H1. Raise H1B Cap (110K Temp Workers per yr). Further raises possible dependent on demand (up to 180K per Year) J0. Keep Exceptional Talent Visa Program as is Q1. New Startup Visa program implemented for foreign entrepreneurs wanting to start a company in the U.S. Q0. Parole board hearing for immigrants with upstanding citizens from the local community the immigrants want to reside in I1. Exempt Educational Visa Holders from Green Card Limits if grad+STEM degree&job offer H0. ResStat if U.S. company pledges to employ immigrant for 5 or more years Q5. Agriculture workers who've worked in the industry at least 2 yr, qualify for Green Cards in another 5 years if they stay in the industry H4. Crack down on companies who train workers in the U.S. and then ship them back over seas to work H5. Keep H1B Program as is (85K Temp Workers per yr) I0. Keep Educational Visa Programs as is M1. Expedited Green Cards for Children or Spouses Only for Military Members O0. Exempt Children/Spouses/Parents of Citizens from Immigration Limits. No more Siblings or Married Children over 30 M0. Exempt Children/Spouses of Military Members from Immigration Limits N2. GrCards for Spouses and Young Unmarried Children only of Legal Immigrants. No more Parents O2. GrCards for Spouses and Young Unmarried Children only of Citizens (Max 480K per yr). No more Parents or Siblings Q7. Legal Immigrants should be afforded a fast track to citizenship P1. CitPath after 7 yr Probat for Asylum Seekers/Refugees P2. Require Asylum/Refugee Applications be made in writing from country of origin P3. Asylum Seekers/Refugees Must Obtain and Keep Employment to Stay, Else Deported P0. CitPath Instant for Asylum Seekers/Refugees L2. Keep Military Visa Program as is (GrCard after 12 yr service) O1. GrCards for Spouses, Young Unmarried Children, and Parents + Siblings and Older Children of Citizens (Max 480K per yr) $0. Keep Everything About this part of Immigration System Just The Way it is (Status Quo Option) P5. Asylum Seekers/Refugees Should be Deported P4. Asylum Seekers/Refugees Should be Turned Away N1. GrCards for Spouses, Young Unmarried Children, and Parents of Legal Immigrants N0. Exempt Children/Spouses/Parents of Legal Immigrants from Immigration Limits K0. Keep Permanent Visa Lottery Program as is (50K GrCards per year) H6. End H1B Temporary Work Visa Program -Meta
