Ranked Vote: How To Restore Meaningful Civil Discourse

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  1. Meta777

    Meta777 Moderator Staff Member

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    BTW, here are the votes I have recorded so far.

    S,Factual Knowledge Sub-forum for Posting Commented Source Links
    S,G,C
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    E,C,I,B,S,G,A,M,D,P,L,K,J,Q,O
    K,Right/Left Score System
    S,G,I,J,Additional Logic Screening For New Posters

    If you don't see one in there that looks like yours, please let me know. Thanks!

    -Meta
     
  2. Meta777

    Meta777 Moderator Staff Member

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    Also, last chance to vote BTW, for anyone who still wants to.
    Will be posting the results latter tomorrow.
     
  3. Ndividual

    Ndividual Well-Known Member

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    Just moderate the existing threads, warning once and suspend the ability to post for an incrementally longer period for each successive warning accumulated resulting in banning permanently at some point.
    If we can't discuss issues staying on topic with intent to acquire acceptable solutions we're simply wasting our time as the threads eventually devolve into denigrating one another based on something not even related to the threads topic.
     
  4. Honky Kong

    Honky Kong Well-Known Member

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    You know another site made the news the other day. A site that promises no filters. In the first 24 hours yesterday they picked up 16,000 new members. That is a HUGE JUMP. I come from a site of 1.7 million and they would see that as huge. The future of sites are not more restrictions on speech but less.
     
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  5. Moonglow

    Moonglow Well-Known Member

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    That's what Lincoln said..
     
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  6. Meta777

    Meta777 Moderator Staff Member

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    Lol, you guys probably all saw this one coming, but...
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    The winner is!....

    S. Masters Forum: An Exclusive Invitation-Only Sub forum
    with Higher Standards for Civil Debate!

    Option G. Create a Highly Moderated Sub-forum With Stricter Rules, which is more or less the same as option S, ties for second place in the Ranked Pairs tally alongside option I. Agree to a Shared Set of Fact Verification Methods. Not much else to say really.
    Thanks everyone who participated!

    Results (Ranked Pairs - Plurality - Instant Runoff):
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    A. Focus on Discussing Issues that Matter (As Opposed to Hot Topics)
    B. Avoid Binary Thinking and Partisan Finger-Pointing
    C. Create Focused Threads With a Clearly Defined Issue Targeted Towards Finding Solutions
    D. Have a Sub-forum Specifically Geared Towards Discussing Ways To Improve Discussion
    E. Reduce Partisanship by Improving Our Election System[1][2-Summary]
    F. Break The U.S. Into Two Separate Countries
    G. Create a Highly Moderated Sub-forum With Stricter Rules
    H. Call a Liar a Liar and a Dummy a Dummy
    I. Agree to a Shared Set of Fact Verification Methods
    J. Create and Enforce Stricter Rules on the Site as a Whole
    K. Impose Maximum Daily Thread/Post Limits
    L. Label Certain Threads as Serious Discussion Where Insulting Posters Are Ignored
    M. Embrace Respectful Disagreement/Learn More About Your Rival
    N. Repeal Sunshine Laws
    O. Offer Individual Rights Constitutional Law Class Along Side Postmodern Civil Rights Class
    P. Designate Partisan Free Threads and or Forums
    Q. Reinstate Fairness Doctrine/Equal Time Rule for the Media
    R. Split Forum into 3 Sections. Standard Section, Higher Civility Section, and Section where Civility is Not Required
    S. Add Masters Forum: An Exclusive Invitation Only Sub forum with Higher Standards for Civil Debate
    T. Allow Things to Continue On As They Are Uninterrupted (Status Quo Option)
    U. Don't Feel Qualified/Knowledgeable Enough To Vote In This Poll
    V. No Strong Feelings One Way Or The Other

    "Write-ins":

    Additional Logic Screening For New Posters
    Factual Knowledge Sub-forum for Posting Commented Source Links
    Right/Left Score System

    Ranked Vote: Discussion Thread

    -Meta
     
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  7. Meta777

    Meta777 Moderator Staff Member

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    22catch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Gotta love Meta. Hearts in the right place.

    Sir have you perused our news sections lately? Its like that right now. People of more far leaning ideologies have given up any pretense of following thread creation guidelines. The same offenders over and over. Direct personal attacks, derailments, off topic deflections ..titles in Russian. Dont tell us its moderated because its not. Hasnt been for a while. Not consistently.

    The absolute very best thing you could do to encourage civil discourse here on PF is verify these team members you have are actually spending time policing the news sections. Just enforcing current rules without bias would work wonders.

    I have the distinct impression its not an organized effort. Its a non paid job I bet and real life comes first but look to your own current processes and communication on workflow before you add more laws on a cracked foundation.
     

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