Rashida Tlaib’s Expletive-Laden Cry to Impeach Trump Upends Democrats’ Talking Points

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  1. Fred C Dobbs

    Fred C Dobbs Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    In fact there have been bloody places all over the planet but, being westerners, we tend to concentrate on those. Had some African, Asian or Mideast countries and their various dictatorships had access to atomic weapons they may well have used them but, thankfully, they're in the hands, for now, of more advanced nations.

    If you rubbish the Koran anywhere in the in a Muslim run country you should expect the worst, while rubbishing the Bible in a Christian dominant country is permitted and often encouraged.
     
  2. Fred C Dobbs

    Fred C Dobbs Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I naturally object having to live among misogynists, fascists and racists and won't if given the choice. What rational person, given their freedom, would?

    Muslims, apart from being potentially dangerous, are generally just tiresome as a result of having been brainwashed since birth to having one consistent belief. That's what has kept Islam's victims from advancing in the world, especially when compared to all those people they hate. Doesn't it annoy Muslims to see Jews and Christians generally doing so well while Muslims, without western technology, would still be striving for third world status? Those who want to abandon Islam, as they should, would be very welcome. That would also mean a Mosque free society.

    However I don't have 'empathy' for people bathed in ancient hatreds, and my only concern, not fear, is for for those forced to live under this backward and most ignorant of religious and political systems..
     
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    Fred C Dobbs Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You're speaking for yourself here, right?
     
  4. Fred C Dobbs

    Fred C Dobbs Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    How would that 'stranglehold' be broken?
     
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    mamooth Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Are the Trump cultists still melting down over swearing?

    I thought they said being un-PC was good?

    Oh, that's right. It's the Trump cult, meaning we'll always see hypocrisy and snowflakism combined.
     
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    The Europeans and Chinese were
    were the bloodiest people on the planet long before nukes were a concern.

    Indeed, but this is not some core facet of the two civilaztions. Christians have lived in the Islamic world for well over a millennia. How many Muslims did the Spanish tolerate in their kingdoms?

    Even today, Westerners give hints of the inevitably and even justice of chasing Muslims out of Europe in the near future. Meanwhile, 1500 years later there are as many Copts per capita in Egypt as there are blacks per capita in the United States.

    The liberals don't understand the Islamic world, but neither do you.
     
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  7. Fred C Dobbs

    Fred C Dobbs Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    In fact there have been bloody wars on all continents since man first walked upright. However the world has become a far more peaceful place in the last several decades and that is thanks to the spread of democracy, headed largely by the Americans.
    Muslims conquered much of the Middle East, subjecting the people who had lived there for centuries. Muslims conquered parts of Spain, attacked Europe, and were finally stopped at the Gates of Vienna. Islam spreads through violence and coercion, as we have studied and witnessed, not through intelligent reasoning.
    I agree that that Muslims should abandon Islam, despite the threats from other Muslims if they do. Only then will these people breath the fresh air available to all others in a functioning democracy. Unfortunately many Muslims still want to introduce their backwardness into the schools and the legal system.
    I think we all understand enough about Islam, Fascism, Communism, Nazism, etc. to know that they'e all harmful to free human beings.

    But if you can offer up some positives to say about Islam I'd certainty like to hear them.
     
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    Mm-hmm, and for centuries two cultures have been the bloodiest.

    No, it's partially a result of American martial strength and partially a result of Cold War institutions and their inertia.

    Democracy is hardly a recipe for peace. Westerners tend to universalize. It works for us, it won't work in China. It's going to be a disaster for China.

    Yes, subjected, and tolerated. How long did it take for the Christians to "clean up" in Spain?

    The Teutonic Crusades and Spanish conquest of the Americas sure were peaceful, Christianity would never spread by violence and coercion.

    Like Evangelical Christianity, Islam is a religion easy for bigots to latch onto as some kind of fundamentally evil belief system. It's not my place to defend either of these culture, only to point out that your interpretation doesn't hold it's own historically. Of the Abrahamics, the Muslims have been the most tolerant, however you want to interpret the texts.
     
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    Oh, okay. You must mean, like Proverbs 31:10-31 eh??


    10 A wife of noble character who can find? She is worth far more than rubies.
    11 Her husband has full confidence in her
    and lacks nothing of value.
    12 She brings him good, not harm,
    all the days of her life.
    13 She selects wool and flax
    and works with eager hands.
    14 She is like the merchant ships,
    bringing her food from afar.
    15 She gets up while it is still night;
    she provides food for her family
    and portions for her female servants.
    16 She considers a field and buys it;
    out of her earnings she plants a vineyard.
    17 She sets about her work vigorously;
    her arms are strong for her tasks.
    18 She sees that her trading is profitable,
    and her lamp does not go out at night.
    19 In her hand she holds the distaff
    and grasps the spindle with her fingers.
    20 She opens her arms to the poor
    and extends her hands to the needy.
    21 When it snows, she has no fear for her household;
    for all of them are clothed in scarlet.
    22 She makes coverings for her bed;
    she is clothed in fine linen and purple.
    23 Her husband is respected at the city gate,
    where he takes his seat among the elders of the land.
    24 She makes linen garments and sells them,
    and supplies the merchants with sashes.
    25 She is clothed with strength and dignity;
    she can laugh at the days to come.
    26 She speaks with wisdom,
    and faithful instruction is on her tongue.
    27 She watches over the affairs of her household
    and does not eat the bread of idleness.
    28 Her children arise and call her blessed;
    her husband also, and he praises her:
    29 “Many women do noble things,
    but you surpass them all.”
    30 Charm is deceptive, and beauty is fleeting;
    but a woman who fears the Lord is to be praised.
    31 Honor her for all that her hands have done,
    and let her works bring her praise at the city gate.
     
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    I get tired of the muslim apologists that endlessly defend islam, usually with comparisons with the Bible, christians, the middle ages and its religious killings.......its all smoke and mirrors....
    I have asked more than once for someone to commence a thread, a positive thread about the
    purer than the driven snow known as islam....the wonderful achievements of islam, how righteous the deen is.............anything...take your pick..so long as its positive......
    I havent seen that thread yet......
     
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    Wrong......wrong, and wrong again....
    According to a hadith...sahih muslim book 033 number 6426..everyone comes into this world as a muslim...
    Therefore, if you believe this hadith...you are an apostate which is punishable by death...
    How do you plead...guilty or not guilty.....you did say youre not a muslim didnt you...well youre an apostate....
     
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    Several ways. A good first step would be to obey and enforce the law, and have AIPAC register under FARA.

    A good second step would be to prohibit dual citizens from serving in government, as is the case in Australia, common sense.
     
  13. Renee

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    I bet you don’t see Christians as being potentially dangerous. Jews certainly can attest to that...trump is following Hitler’s footsteps to a tee. He even believes that neo-Nazis are some good people. And if you notice anti-Semitism is rising just the way it did in Germany and Poland and Austria etc. It led to 6 million Jews being slaughtered so don’t hold the moral high ground.
    I almost have to laugh when you say you don’t have empathy for people in “ancient hatred’” when you don’t have empathy for people who are trying to get away from that. People didn’t want Jews coming to this country fleeing from concentration camps,,same dance, different steps
     
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    And millions of others
     
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    Well, you see youre wrong again.
    The figure of 6 million jews is a figure decided upon and used regularly by the media of yesteryear...Strange that all sources tell us the same lie....
    From my research, and this can be verified if you want to follow it up yourself, there were only about 3 million jews in the entire continent of Europe during the war. Where did they get 6 million from...just a figure agreed upon by the lying media...
    BTW have you thought of the impossibility of killing by gas chamber 6 million jews.
    Think about it...thats about 3000 a day...how is that possible when one considers the process of
    having the 3000 prisoners herded into the gas chambers, gased, bodies disposed of, chambers
    fumigated to protect german soldiers, then more herded in the next day (3000 per day dont forget)
    and the process repeated....thats for 365 days of the year, for say, five years of the war...
    Dont get me wrong, Im not defending the holocaust...far from it...but 6 million...no.....
     
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    Forgot to ask....are you a muslim....
     
  17. Renee

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    There was no holocaust...silly me. All those documents showing 6 million Jews were part of a conspiracy . Germany kept records and even they didn’t deny the numbers
    Your holocaust denial “facts” are amazing...absolutely shows a lack of any curiosity to educate yourself.Doesn’t commonsense tell you that if they were only 3 million Jews in the entire continent of Europe that that would easily disproven 6 million theory. They were close to 12 million so try educating yourself.
    And your other neo Nazi rhetoric that it was Impossible to kill 3000 a day shows how uninformed you were. Do you really think that they were all herded into gas chambers? I am sure you think that all those photographs of them lined up and being shot are all fake. Starvation ring a bell?
     
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    No, are you a Christian?
     

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