Rasmussen Poll: 50 Percent Support SCOTUS Abortion Ruling

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  1. Kal'Stang

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    Bold: Everyone poor already gets this.
    Underlined: That is between the woman and her employer.
    Italics: Fathers are already required by law to pay child support if not married to the mother.
    Rest: Poor people already get free/subsidized child care.

    Yet there are still more abortions per year than people killed where a gun was used.
     
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    Because that won’t fix the problem because most people who need it already get those number one. But okay let’s assume we agree to all of those. You okay with banning abortion then?
     
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    Well, women will have to make their case at the voting booth.
     
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    Except democrats are in power now.
     
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    Actually it’s 45%. The rest no opinion/undecided.
     
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    forcing a rape victim to have her rapists baby is objectively accessory to rape
     
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    They will, this is like taking away guns from conservatives. Good timing for Biden
     
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    I'd say 80% of what's happening now was going to happen regardless of who won the election. Biden can only really be said to have had a demonstrable effect on gas prices, and to what extent that effect is/was is hard to measure. His drilling lease shenanigans and nixxing the Keystone XL pipeline absolutely positively did not help anything, but I also sincerely doubt that gas prices being what they are can be solely blamed on that. However, it's possible that if Keystone was operational, gas prices would be lower. At some point though, refinery capacity will top off giving the benefits from both the pipeline and the lease stuff an upper limit. And we're still exporting gas right now, if you can believe that.

    Please don't assume that I think Biden is doing a good job. He's not. I doubt many expected him to. He won because he wasn't Trump, not because people believed in him or thought he could fix things. Demagogues with no self control tend to stir up some intense antipathy that results in elections like that.
     
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    It's about time we had a real debate about abortion. This is how democracy works. Letting non-elected officials decide a very moral issue is against democracy. Let the people decide.
     
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    If that is what the people want then it's good for democracy. And that is what conservatives had hoped to gain from this decision by the SC.
     
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    You mean had an abortion, had their unborn baby killed? Why does the pro-abortion side always have to use vague terms?

    And what is the point about knowing someone who had an abortion? If back in 1860 I posted that about 50% of people know someone who owned a slave would that justify slavery?
     
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    And another non-sequitur. You think the purpose of the rapist is to create a new human being? And no one forces a victim of rape to have a baby nor does this rare less than 2% of all abortions justify the other NINTY-EIGHT PERCENT. Why do you always try to justify all abortions with those extremely rare case?
     
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    And another non-sequitur. You think the woman wants to have the rapists baby? why do you try to justify forcing rape victims to have their rapists babies (see, I can put words in your mouth, just like you did mine... not nice it is)

    And yes, if you take away the right to abortion, then yes, that is forcing rape victims to have their rapists baby
     
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    incorrect, but forcing a rape victim to have her rapists baby is objectively accessory after the fact to rape
     
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    Oh puh-leeze, enough with this crap. No one is forcing anyone else to do anything.
     
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    you first, enough with your crap, no one is murdering anyone
     
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    Chevron's CEO sums the matter of US refining capacity up nicely.

    "We haven't had a refinery built in the United States since the 1970s. My personal view is there will never be another new refinery built in the United States," Wirth said in an interview with Bloomberg.

    "You're looking at committing capital 10 years out, that will need decades to offer a return for shareholders, in a policy environment where governments around the world are saying we don't want these products," Wirth said.

    "At every level of the system, the policy of our government is to reduce demand, and so it's very hard in a business where investments have a payout period of a decade or more," according to Wirth. "And the stated policy of the government for a long time has been to reduce demand for your products."

    https://seekingalpha.com/news/38457...-ever-built-again-in-the-us-chevron-ceo-warns
     
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    No one is forcing anyone to do anything. Perhaps you view abortion as human sacrifice to the god of the lefty nonsense.
     
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    not true, but forcing a rape victim to have her rapists baby is objectively accessory after the fact to rape
     
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    many pro-lifers believe

    http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Deuteronomy 22:28-29&version=NIV

     
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    Is the entire country made up of cartoon characters to you? Have you been outside in the last decade?
     
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    the right believes it's mostly republicans getting abortions and this will increase their numbers?
     
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    Yes. I live in a beautiful mostly rural area with much to do outdoors around here.
     
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    That is indeed a problem. And unfortunately for the oil industry, a phase out will become a necessity. It wouldn't be a total phase out, as I'm guessing that heavier industrial type things will still need fossil fuels(and so will the power plants). But for regular transport, and maybe even for things like your lawn tractor, electric is probably going to take over.

    This is why the oil industry needs to be looking farther ahead, and should have been for a while now. These guys should be building the solar panels and the electric batteries and stations. Get in on the ground floor doing what they essentially already were. Providing energy.

    I feel bad when people lose their jobs, but I don't blame a politician when a corporation doesn't see the writing on the wall.

    Joe Biden is certainly open to criticism on his decisions regarding Keystone XL and the drilling leases. While not making any judgments about whether taking those actions were the right thing to do or not, regardless of that it was the wrong time to do it. All the signs about where we are now economically were there, with possibly an exception for Russia invading Ukraine. Systems need time to adjust when you make changes, and you don't make those kinds of changes when the system is already stressed after COVID-19.
     
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    And now you can only support candidates who want a total ban. Best of luck with that.
     

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