RCP: Post-debate polls have Trump leading Clinton by slim margin

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  1. Andrew Jackson

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    They will probably pan out with Hillary leading comfortably.
     
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    Rasmussen polls are almost always way off. Their right wing slant is very obvious. Their function is to provide numbers that right wing pundits can entertain their audiences with.

    At election time, Rasmussen tends to start looking a bit more like a real poll. When they report the same results as everyone else does and it's close to the real outcome, the use it as bragging rights about how accurate they are.

    This year, they seem to be all in for the Breitbart effect, telling the far right what it wants to hear regardless of what the reality is.
     
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    If the person making the case against Hillary had integrity and were actually electable then they would side with him hands down. But he isn't. Maybe the GOP should have thought of that before it allowed this buffoon to be nominated.
     
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    Yes. Rasmussen has been used as the go-to service when Republicans want a certain outcome. 538 has them as a c+ with a house effect of +2 in the Republicans' favor.
     
  6. Zorro

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    There is quite a very large gap between Trump and Clinton’s current national standing, as revealed by Goebbels, Pravda, CBS, NBC, ABC/Washington Post, on the one hand, versus the findings by three respected polling organizations that are not part of the propaganda wing of the Democratic Party:

    Non-Propaganda Machine-affiliated:

    IBT/TIPP: 41-40, Trump +1

    LA Times/USC Tracking: 44.5-43.8, Trump +0.7

    Rasmussen: 43-41, Trump +2

    The propaganda arm of the Democratic Party is showing a runaway race, while the independents present an extremely tight one, with Trump frequently leading by a nose.

    The New York Times, Washington Post, ABC, CBS, NBC and CNN have openly, obviously, crudely, and in unalloyed derogation of their obligations as news organizations in a free society, affiliated themselves with the Democratic Party. With unassailable historical veracity, they now can and should be grouped with their predecessor propagandists whose function was to parrot the line of the Parties that controlled the Soviet Union, 1917-91, and Germany, 1933-45.

    So their polls might be horse (*)(*)(*)(*).

    http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2016/10/whats_going_on_with_the_polls.html
     
  7. Zorro

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    IBT/TPP for the final 3 weeks of the election were the most accurate pollster of the 2012 election:

    Weird Al Breaks Down Debate 3:

    [video=youtube;FdBF6h7oH5I]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FdBF6h7oH5I&feature=youtu.be[/video]
     
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    Except an average of all the polls is the MOST accurate way to pick the winner. Trump us getting crushed
     
  9. Zorro

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    IBT/TPP was more accurate than the polling aggregate.
     
  10. randlepatrickmcmurphy

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    Trump's chumps are banking their "hope" on "change".
     
  11. Durandal

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    Yep. We can stop worrying about who's going to win and start worrying about what she's going to do afterwards. The prospect of either of these two in office is frightening, but for different reasons. Will Clinton start a war with Russia?
     
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    No. IBT/TPP fluffed their numbers during the last few days before the 2012 election.

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  13. AmericanNationalist

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    Yeah, polls don't matter because we don't have a nation-wide popular vote. We have an electoral college system(IE: Win the individual States, win the points allotted with those states) and right now, Trump lacks the numbers.
     
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    No, but she will confront them.Si vis pacem para bellum, as the romans used to say. peace through strength, as reagan would have put it.
     
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    The best and accurate poll is conducted on election day! :)
     
  16. Durandal

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    I saw that Putin was in Germany just recently. Is confrontation really what we need right now? From what I've seen, the Russians are always ready to negotiate and cooperate.
     
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    The thing with negotiations is that they work much better when you actually have something tp bargain with, when you are in a position of strength. I am not against negotiation, but that comes after we have broken russia. We can cripple them with economic means alone. I dont see why we should have to ask russia for anything. It is they who shouldcome begging. Who do they think they are anyways? Beggars acting up. We need to teach them a lesson before we do negotiation.
     
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    Your graph is labeled Obama minus MCCAIN. Wrong election, Sporty.
     
  19. AmericanNationalist

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    I doubt that. Especially with all of the talk about Russia hacking us, etc. I feel as though we're in Round 3 of Europe V Russia. This time though, you have the central Asian power China on Russia's side as well. None of this is going to end well at all.
     
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    Don't be so sure......

    the early voting in Florida indicate that those rumours about the polls being cooked.... could well be true?

    Republican 881,274 – Democrat 760,003
    http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/201...oting-florida-120000-first-republicans-state/
     
  21. Mr. Swedish Guy

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    China and Russia aren't really that good friends. From what I've heard, China is basically just exploiting Russia's vulnerable position, getting cheap energy and resources from them. But China knows Russia is dying, and they don't want to be shackled to a corpse. They haven't even recognised the annexation of Crimea, knowing it's not worth it trying to help russia in their battles. China looks out for itself, and Russia is, as it also is for the EU, just a source of cheap raw materials, at best.
     
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    Good post. China isn't going to sacrifice a single person or yen on Russia's behalf. Beijing is going to bleed Russia as dry as it can afford to and move in on Central Asia when Russia no longer has the resources to keep the region close. Russia needs China a good deal more than the reverse. Once China no longer has a use for Russia the 'friendship' will die.
     
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    All the more reason I cannot see China letting Russia simply fall to the other powers. If Russia falls, that cheap energy/resources is devoted back to the West/Europe. A dynamic that the Chinese don't want to see. And for all things Russia may be, it is still a military power. Luckily, you will get Hillary and she wants to engage in the East Front.

    But I do not. I think this is a war Europe has brought on itself, it's a war that Europe should fight and not the US. And Hillary is extremely deluded if she really thinks the escalation with the East Front won't end with military troops. Let me wake her up to reality: It will.

    Luckily, I'm not one of those soldiers so presuming I'm not near any tactical nukes I can sit back and watch it all play out. Humanity being stupid, it really is an incurable disease.
     
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    it's not a war and it wont be war. Putin is just putting up a show for his own people. They'd have ousted him for being a corrupt failure by now if he hadn't rallied them by starting wars. neither putin or the west are suicidal.
     
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    His speech yesterday, about the establishment's greed and insouciance compared to his, apropos his love of country and its people, and that he doesn't need to do it but was driven by aspiration, was little short of inspirational, and could be the clincher?
     

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