Read the memo from Trump aide's office making the case to fire Defense Secretary Mark Esper

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  1. Durandal

    Durandal Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Read the memo from Trump aide's office making the case to fire Defense Secretary Mark Esper

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    It includes bullet points outlining what Karl calls Esper's "sins against Trumpism," :icon_picknose: including that he "barred the Confederate flag" on military bases, "opposed the President's direction to utilize American forces to put down riots," "focused the Department on Russia," and was "actively pushing for 'diversity and inclusion.'"

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    ... https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/read-memo-trump-aides-office-making-case-fire/story?id=81087482

    This is what you get when you put a deranged orange tyrant in charge of the country. You get a Presidential Personnel Office director who recommends firing competent officials with too much integrity and decency, and who refuses to abuse the Insurrection Act to use the military against peaceful protestors, for "sins against Trumpism."
     
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  2. Dutch

    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    WTF?

    I've news for you, my friend - Sec Defence as well as other cabinet members all serve at the pleasure of the President.

    Blaming Trump for everything is not a winning strategy.
     
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    apexofpurple Well-Known Member

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    How long do you think anyone in the Brandon administration would last if they started contradicting the orders Joe is told to give or questioning woketard ideology? Mofos would be fired on the spot.

    I'm guessing someone bothered to list all those things simply to catalog the many reasons why the dismissal was justified by if I want to fire someone my memo looks like this:

    You no longer work here because I ****ing say so.
    -The Boss​
     
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    So Trump did nothing wrong but you disagree with his lawful and appropriate actions?

    Shocking I say! Bring out the torches! Bring out the pitchforks!

    And best of all, bring out the blue haired twitter warriors!

    We have work to do!
     
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    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    TRUMP!!! :frustrated:
     
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    Yulee Well-Known Member

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    That’s why we have elections every 4. So there “say so” is limited
     
  7. AmericanNationalist

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    We have a top chain of command, and it was Esper's lawful obligation to abide by that command whether he liked it or not. That he failed to abide by that command is the reason he lost his job. Also, all of these reasons were public knowledge and accepted. In the field of politics, you may have an opinion but in the field of the military his job was that of lawful obedience. He failed to give that, so he was terminated.

    It's frankly gracious of Trump to give such a letter of resignation, I would not have.
     
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    Durandal Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Would you have opposed removing Confederate flags from military bases, too?
     
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    I do not share the Liberal view on Confederate flags(for one thing, when one looks over the history of the Civil War, it becomes clear(and was clear at the time) that it was "Lincoln's war", the Confederates wanted separation and recognition and tried diplomatic routes, to which Lincoln adamantly refused at the cost of more men.

    if the civil war were today and Lincoln were President, Liberals would undoubtedly call him(rightly) the worst President in history with atrocities that surpass George W. Bush. The only reason Lincoln has his fabled(and therefore false) place in history is the Slavery dilemma. Other than that, the war was a complete US catastrophe of his own making.

    For another thing, I recognize the economic and political difficulties that the textile Southern States had, and if given the time(say another 20 years or so), the South would have weened off slavery anyway. Making Lincoln's war even more pointless.

    But even if I ignored history, what might be repulsive to some was encouraging for others. And in that the confederate 'States' were US(Southern) States, I don't even see the confederate flag as that of an alien nation/invading/foreign nation.

    So to TLDR: No, i would not have directed political or military muscle towards a flag, I'm not a liberal.
     
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    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Indeed. And so the electorate has spoken!

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    3 more years. How bad do you have to be to lose to that guy though?
     
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    Just another victim of Trump's cancel culture.
     
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    John McEntee is obviously a Complete (and Utter) Unqualified Idiot.
    And, that "Memo" is a Complete Joke (that wouldn't even be worthy of publication by The Onion).

    McEntee= A person who should have bern laughed out of Politics.

    But, thanks to a Mentally-Deranged, Mistakenly-Elected IMBECILE (named Donald Trump), McEntee was given extraordinary power.

    Who else (But, a MORON like Donald Trump) could take an Overgrown Frat Boy (whose main claim to fame was a YouTube "trick shot" video) and give that Idiot (McEntee) so much power that McEntee became referred to as the "Deputy President"?

    Obviously, Trump lost any conception of reality after the election.
    And, this overgrown Frat Boy fed Trump's Megalomaniacal Delusions.

    McEntee was so adept at feeding Trump's Delusions, that he made Hitler's Yes-Men look like Paragons of Truth-Telling.


    Only in Trumpworld. Just Wow. :smh:
     
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    Sounds like he was more of a partisan social/political activist than focusing on getting the job done.

    I'm very reluctant to fire people and would always want to try to give people a second chance, but if someone did even just two of those things on that list, I would give them the boot.

    This guy wasn't in Obama's cabinet, he should have known better.

    Supposedly he had a very conservative political background.
    Amazing he would do those things.

    Focusing too much of the department's resources on Russia sounds like a waste of resources, and demonstrates he might have been buying into the Kool-Aid.

    And banning Confederate flags on military bases in the South?
    That's just been a tradition. Some of these bases are even named after Confederates.
     
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    Now there’s an oxymoron.
     
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    Good call, Joe:

    In fact, the world hasn't witnessed anything that "frankly gracious" since Hitler Greenlit the Creation of Concentration Camps.

    Anyway, back to McEntee:

    His YT Video is actually very entertaining:

     
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    Not bad. Shitless scary to Democrats is what Trump is.
     
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    It sounds so similar to the list of heresy charges the Inquisition brought against Galileo.
     

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