READ: Whistleblower lawyer's letter to White House

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  1. Professor Peabody

    Professor Peabody Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    When articles of impeachment are passed they go to the Senate for a Trial with the Chief Justice of the SCOTUS presiding. That and Joe, Hunter Biden and Chris Heinz will be subpoenaed to testify is why it will never make it that far.
     
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  2. Statistikhengst

    Statistikhengst Well-Known Member

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    Thanks for the clarification
     
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    Professor Peabody Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Why? Joe's going to have to tell the truth, Lie or Plead the 5th.
     
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    Professor Peabody Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Try looking at your own country for a sorry state of affairs.
     
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    I have looked and I look every day, Peabody. Why is that we do not have this Trump (Nixon, Clinton) impeachment crap in Australia? The answer is....we have not politicised due process. Look at the USA, tearing itself apart as orchestrated by the biggest Narcissist since Caligula. Trump is so like Caligula, except it will be a golf cart he anoints as a Senator, and it is not his Sister he is carousing with.
     
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    Your failure to substantiate your position is not my problem.
     
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    You are believing what your BLOTUS said even though he is a well known LIAR who DISTORTS everything for PERSONAL GAIN!

    Neither of the Biden's have committed any crimes under either Ukraine or US laws.

    Your BLOTUS was LYING about them in order to FORCE the Ukrainian president to open an investigation that would PERSONALLY BENEFIT your lying BLOTUS.

    Why do you BELIEVE a LIAR when you could find out for YOURSELF what the FACTS are?

    Here is a LINK to the ENTIRE Ukrainian issue.

    I seriously RECOMMEND that you read in it's ENTIRETY before continuing. What you will learn will give you the necessary INSIGHT to understand what has happened and WHY it happened.

    https://www.justsecurity.org/66271/timeline-trump-giuliani-bidens-and-ukrainegate/
     
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    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    Good analogy!
     
  9. Professor Peabody

    Professor Peabody Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You need to take that up with the Democrats. In the AU folks are so cowed by their Government they're afraid to fight for what they believe in I guess. We aren't hence the fight you see. That right is guaranteed by our constitution.
     
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    You're dodging the subject and topic isn't my problem it's the mods to delete you inane posts.
     
  11. RodB

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    Is this the same slip and fall lawyer who started a coup d'état in 2017?

    Federal offenses do not equate to impeachable offenses.
     
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    The president is in no position to do any harm to this individual. If this person broke any laws, which we don't know that he has at this time, then our legal system could act accordingly. It is more likely that individuals passing him classified information may have crossed the line so it would be good to get that information out in the open by interviewing this operative.
     
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    Urging Ukraine to clean up corruption is high on the list of desires that the Ukrainian diospora has as support for the primarily younger Ukrainians such as Zalenskiy. Zalenskiy ran on an anti corruption platform. The wrong that Trump committed was to try and force Zalenskiy to make up Dirt on Bidens and or investigate the Bidens just because Biden was a likely opponent of Trump. It would have been ok if Ukraine was pushed to accelerate the campaign against the general corruption they have.

    What Biden did in 2016 was the force the removal of a Ukrainian prosecutor because that prosecutor was more than a useless piece of pro corruption scum. The EU and the IMF along with the US asked Biden to deliver that message.

    The pro Trump fans and criminals such as Guiliani concocted a Fake Phony Make Believe conspiracy claiming falsely that Biden wanted an investigation into Hunter stopped. That is one big assed lie. Why??
    I will tell you Why! There was no investigation of Hunter therefore Biden could not have stopped an "investigation" that never was,

    Let me say that again......there was no investigation of Hunter Biden to stop so Biden could not ask to stop something that was NOT HAPPENING.
     
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    So Biden and his son are above the law and immune from investigation? Why is that? And quote Trump requesting Ukraine to "make up" anything. There was an investigation into the company and oligach's who were paying him off in order to gain influence. Why shouldn't we investigate what appears to be a blatant case if corruption?
     
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    There was no investigation. He and his lawyer, who was hell bent on a political coup from day one, went and plotted with Democrats in Congress on their little scheme and THEN went to the IG with his complaint. It should have been the other way around. And Schiff lied about it. The DNI and Office of Legal Counsel determined it did not meet the statutory requirements for a whistleblower complaint and that as it. As Andrew McCarthy writes.

    " As I’ve previously explained, the man in question may be a “whistleblower” in some common-usage sense of the word. Yet, he is not a whistleblower in the statutory sense. That’s the only sense that matters because the relevant statute is what triggers whistleblower protections. Under that statute, protected status is given to an official who reports on intelligence activities within the jurisdiction of the director of national intelligence. The statute does not apply to the president’s conducting of foreign policy, including his communications with foreign heads of state."
    https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/andrew-mccarthy-latest-bogus-legal-argument-whistleblower
     
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    Wrong again fact.


    Oh right it was just low level staff behind Schiff's back........the absurdity. But hey let's put Schiff under oath along with his staff.
     
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    Oh, yes they do. Where in the hell did you get that crap?

    Under the rubrik of "High Crimes and misdemeanors" falls, of course, federal crimes.

    DUH.
     
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    I never said that Biden is neither above nor below the law. Not for that matter immune from investigation. What is lacking in your attack on Biden and Son is probable cause for investigation. What facts do who have pointing hot a US law Biden and/ or Biden broke. I know! No facts. What I perceive that you are trying to do is connect the Biden's with the law (s) Burisma and the owner of Burisma broke BEFORE Biden was on their board. I further surmise that if Biden Sr. was not running POTUS Trump and Company would not give two Schiest squats that Little Biden was on the board. Little Biden went onto the Burisma board back when Biden was VEEP. So if Little or Big Biden committed any crimes why were we made deaf by the Sounf Of Silence?
    Now what is true and I have stated it before Big Biden should not have exposed himself to attack, criticism, and a Schiest storm by letting Little Biden take the seat on the board. BTW a former CIA official was on the Burisma board ( still may be) why is no one complaining about that.?. Why no calls to investigate Black? I know the answer - Cofer Black is not running for high office.

    You see there is but one and only one reason to demand that the Biden Boys be investigated and charged with crime(s)!!!! You know the answer. The reason is to weaken or destroy a Trump political opponent.

    The former president of Poland is also on the Burisma board. Why not call to investigate and charge him with some crime. I don't know maybe the crime of being Polish. I jest of course about Mr. Kwasniewski.

    You see the demand for investigating the Biden Boys is nothing but one big Witch Hunt perpetrated by Trump and his loyal but foolish and low information followers.
     
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    Sorry. High crimes and misdemeanors means.... well, high crimes and misdemeanors. There are a jillion federal crimes that do not rise to that level.
     
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    Oh no it's been about he's Trump's political opponent therefore he cannot be investigated when that didn't matter when it was Trump running.

    FALSE we have the payments for nothing and we have Biden's own words but then lacking probable cause did not stop the investigation of Trump.

    Money and the quid pro quo what I surmise is that if no matter what evidence we have you would be calling for Trump to be impeached for calling for an investigation.

    It was not just one reason but the basis was the money going to Ukraine and insuring it would not be used corruptly and oh BTW we don't need to election someone who participated with his son in such a scheme previously.

    WOW he's an American citizen?
     
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    You said
     
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    A nation of disarmed sheeple, no thanks.
     
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    The whistleblower is already well know to certain members of Congress.

    In other words, they don't need to ask him any questions. Kind of like taking Crowdstrike's word for it.

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    But this guy does need to answer questions about his connection and involvement with the Koch-Glitsch Italia scandal.

    Question One... Do you speak fluent Russian?
    Question Two... What is your association with Natalia Cherenkova and Elena Romanova?
    Question Three... Did Joe Biden introduce you to Rienzi when he visited the United States?

    I suspect that a Biden picture also exists.......
     
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    You mean the fact that Biden bragged about having a prosecutor fired after he gave the Ukraine an ultimatum ??
     
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