Real, Practical Approaches

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  1. unkotare

    unkotare Well-Known Member

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    So, everyone talks and talks and talks about race and fairness and all that stuff. Nobody talks about it and agonizes over it more than America. Few would disagree that things are better for minorities in America than they used to be, and few would disagree that they could be better still. It is reasonable to recognize that America is way ahead of most other countries in this regard, and it is reasonable to recognize that we still have a long way to go to reach that "more perfect Union" for all Americans.

    The actionable question is, what can be done to actually make things better for individual Americans and the country as a whole? Easy dismissals like "they should shut up and get over it!" or unrealistic fantasies like "pay me reparations for 1/3 of a great-great-grand uncle" are NOT practical or useful.

    So, what might actually help?
     
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    unkotare Well-Known Member

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    Crickets........of course.....
     
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    tecoyah Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Until the black community polices its own and forces cultural change within itself there is little to be done by any outside influence. As it currently stands many people avoid black persons out of safety concerns and do not spend the time to form any type of relations because of it, so all attempts at correction right now must be forced or mandated. I fully understand that this statement of reality will be seen as racist by some and that is also part of the problem. There seems to be a latent persecution complex that simply makes any attempted communication very difficult so why bother.
     
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    unkotare Well-Known Member

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    Maybe this “inside” and “outside” idea is part of the problem.
     
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    tecoyah Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Oh....it definitely is. Much the way I live inside my home instead of in a snake den. Thing is..I am reacting to a problem vs. creating it.

    Tell me, considering the recent Uber issues and the perpetrators, would you be comfortable with your daughter getting a ride?
     
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    You really don't see your attitude as at least part of the problem referred to in the OP? Your post is dripping with it.
     
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    tecoyah Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    My attitude is certainly "Part of the Problem" but as stated it is reaction to the larger issue created. I note you did not answer my question so...

    Would you walk down the street in a black neighborhood at dusk?
     
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    Since I do almost every day, yeah, I think I could handle it. Try not to be ruled by your fear so much.
     
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    I tried that....it was expensive.
     
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    Throwing away your self-respect is expensive.
     
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    Unlike other races African Americans have had a long history of poverty and ghettoization and the symptoms associated with this concentration, high drug use, violence and crime are blamed on the race rather than their situation.
     
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    I think native Americans might take issue with some of your generalizations there.
     
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    edna kawabata Well-Known Member

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    What? They have many of the same issues.
    Much of the racism toward them can be blamed on their imposed situation can it not?
     
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    A big part of the problem is just what occurs above. A number of people in these threads look at a few statistics and make racist conclusions based on small percentages of a group.

    A racist will never post a fact like 95% of all black Americans have never been involved violent crime - it’s always concentrated on the 5% who do.

    And it’s this generalization that unfortunately shapes the view of so many and leads to moronic movements like White Nationalism - which then feeds on the negative narrative.
     
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    Everyone is racist. It is a human urge to categorize. It is a defense mechanism and a way to make sense of the world. Liberals exhibit their racism by being paternalistic, making excuses for wrong doing by minorities and refusing to criticize inequity in a culture and conservatives reveal their racism through dismissiveness, derision and hate.
    What controls socially unacceptable behavior is making that person aware of their behavior and social pressure. During the civil rights movement many whites were unaware of their racist attitudes and they changed their behaviors. With a MAGA president who dog whistles racists they feel confident to crawl out from under their rocks, but I think their day in the sun will be over in 2020.
     

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