Reasons to abort affected by country's economic circumstance

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  1. Giftedone

    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Nor on logic or rational thought but, there is no time like the present to start !
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    quote taken from another thread:
    Can we discuss this quote in this thread? Because this is really the subject matter I want to focus on in this thread.
     
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    I thought this was:

    You: ""So I'm wondering, will there be an ever expanding list of reasons to justify abortion?""


    Why don't you ever answer questions in your other threads that aren't 3 months old? :)
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You know, in any other situation, if women were killing their babies in some other country, we would say that economic situation in that country was very very desperate.

    And in this link you can read just such an example of that happening: Death Without Weeping, by Nancy Scheper-Hughes
    I think those on the Left who support Abortion will especially enjoy reading it. It's about impoverished women in the shantytowns of Brazil who routinely and intentionally starved their babies to death, and the sociology and anthropology behind that phenomena. The article was written back in the 80s when Brazil was a poorer country than it is today.
     
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    The abortion rate for a detected Downs pregnancy in the USA is over 90%.

    That means the pro-lifers are all doing it as well. They just lie about it, same way they lie about everything. Thus, they should spare the smarmy fake moralizing, as it's not fooling anyone.
     
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    You certainly seemed happy about it. Look at you here, chuckling about another strawman you created to feed your hate.

    The left, we see it as a tragedy.
     
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    And if they had access to SAFE AFFORDABLE abortion and/or safe affordable birth control actual CHILDREN would not be starving.....




    Now I know that's a fact and logical so I won't be holding my breath for you to reply....


    And I'm also sure you have no proof of your nasty comment ""the Left who support Abortion will especially enjoy reading it"".

    Why would we? EXPLAIN!


    We're for the right of women to own their own bodies.....free to choose abortion or gestation....now EXPLAIN why YOU think we'd enjoy children starving when WE want to prevent it???



    Now I know that's a fact and logical so I won't be holding my breath for you to reply....righties just can't...
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Perhaps, but abortion in the case of Down's isn't quite the same morality as a perfectly normal healthy pregnancy, or at least it may not be ethically wrong to the same degree. Therefore, it's not necessarily an inconsistency to abort in one situation but advocate against aborting in another type of situation.

    The interesting thing is that something relatively minor in a wealthier country would be seen as something much more serious in a poorer country, because they may have fewer resources to accommodate or deal with that disability. One example is a deformity that could be corrected with a simple surgery.
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Many of you wouldn't see it as a tragedy if it happened 3 months earlier, while it was still in the womb.
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    But it's also true that the abortion rate for pregnancies resulting from rape is 49%. That implies that lifers are at least consistent on their position when it comes to rape.

    (source here: most women who were raped do NOT want to abort the baby )
     
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    Guess you have no idea what it is to starve to death.... To denigrate what a child starving to death feels and endures by comparing it to a fetus that never suffers anything is quite despicable.


    ...and many of these "pro-Lifers" are cheering the US keeping children in cages....gee, how NOT "Pro-Life"!
     
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    Here's a common mistake by Anti-Choicers : YOU do NOT dictate what is moral or not...:)



    Why not? Aren't they ALL PRECIOUS LIFE?????????




    AGAIN, I won't wait for you to face my posts....
     
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    What? What "position on rape"? Some Anti-Choicers say no abortion for anything and some say they'd make an exception for rape ...but WHY.

    Aren't ALL fetuses "precious life" ???


    The hilariously named "Pro-lifers" are NOT consistent at all ever...
     
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    Just because you claim that a single human cell (the zygote) is a child - does not make that claim true. Assumed premise fallacy.

    Quit being so hysterical and get a valid argument.
     
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    You are just full of really bad and fallacious arguments. The left does not think the fetus can become a grape fruit. The fact that a zygote will not become a grape fruit however, does not make a single human cell a baby - or a cluster of human cells for that matter.

    That dumb people make dumb laws - laws which contradict other laws making a joke out of our justice system - is not an argument for much.
     
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    Chinese Cultural Studies: A Holocaust of Little Girls

    Our society may not be so different from that. It may just be a matter of degree.
    Obviously the more desperate life circumstances in a society are, the more we're willing to just look away, and to some extent normalize what goes on.
     
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