Rebuilding of Jerusalem Third Temple may be least expensive way to stabilize climate?

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Do you believe that the rebuilding of the Jerusalem Third Temple will occur in...?

  1. Probably within a century or two!

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  2. Never, Bible prophecy is false and misleading.

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  3. Perhaps within decades, we truly are in a new age of spirituality!

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  4. Perhaps by the year 3030, three days/3000 years from the resurrection of Jesus!

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  5. I don't know enough about this subject to comment!

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  6. Hey, this is a good way to prove that God does not exist!

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    I thought that this was an exceptionally good answer on this question:

    Could 2017 - 2021 be four years of Grace for the church?

     
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    Revelation says there is no temple.
     
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    If I am not mistaken that is for the time after Revelation 20 which is for over a thousand years in the future.

    I think that Rabbi Jonathan Kahn gives a great explanation for their being a Jerusalem Temple:

     
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    The Levitical rituals include the sacrificing of cattle.

    Cattle and buffalo may hold the key to putting atmospheric carbon back into the soils of the earth.

    So...... the rebuilding of the Jerusalem Third Temple and / or the Ezekiel Temple Complex could well play a massive role in stabilization of the climate of the earth!!!!!!




    TONY LOVELL ON SOIL CARBON: PUTTING CARBON BACK WHERE IT BELONGS – IN THE EARTH (TEDX VIDEO)






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    (The question was asked if a literal Ezekiel temple mount complex would be a step backwards for Messiah Yeshua - Jesus).... I replied:


    Basically.... Messiah Yeshua - Jesus has made covenants.......
    multiple covenants that remain in force in effect and
    in his mind..... do not contradict or negate each other.

    We humans find ourselves almost incapable of understanding how
    Messiah Yeshua - Jesus in his glorified resurrected form can handle all that
    ..... but to me it is obvious that He can!

    There is an Adamic covenant....
    there is a Mosaic covenant
    there is a Noahaic covenant (pardon my spelling please)
    there is a covenant with each of the twelve patriarch partly explained in Genesis 48
    and Genesis 49 if I remember correctly.......

    There are covenants with Abraham....
    Isaac/ Yitzhak and Jacob/ Yakob.....

    The covenants with David and with Levi were specified as being eternal.....

    but I believe that once the Word / Logos makes a covenant.....
    even one that is not necessarily recorded in scriptures.....
    that covenant / agreement remains in force and effect even if you or I know nothing about it..... due to it being above our Security Clearance Level and pay scale.......!


    Luke 24:25 "Then he said unto them, O fools, and slow of heart to believe all that the prophets have spoken:"

    Jeremiah 33
    16 In those days shall Judah be saved, and Jerusalem shall dwell safely; and this is [the name] whereby she shall be called: Jehovah our righteousness.

    17 For thus saith Jehovah: David shall never want a man to sit upon the throne of the house of Israel; 18 neither shall the priests the Levites want a man before me to offer burnt-offerings, and to burn meal-offerings, and to do sacrifice continually.

    19 And the word of Jehovah came unto Jeremiah, saying, 20 Thus saith Jehovah: If ye can break my covenant of the day, and my covenant of the night, so that there shall not be day and night in their season; 21 then may also my covenant be broken with David my servant, that he shall not have a son to reign upon his throne; and with the Levites the priests, my ministers.

    22 As the host of heaven cannot be numbered, neither the sand of the sea measured; so will I multiply the seed of David my servant, and the Levites that minister unto me.

    23 And the word of Jehovah came to Jeremiah, saying, 24 Considerest thou not what this people have spoken, saying, The two families which Jehovah did choose, he hath cast them off? thus do they despise my people, that they should be no more a nation before them.

    25 Thus saith Jehovah: If my covenant of day and night [stand] not, if I have not appointed the ordinances of heaven and earth; 26 then will I also cast away the seed of Jacob, and of David my servant, so that I will not take of his seed to be rulers over the seed of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob: for I will cause their captivity to return, and will have mercy on them.
     
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    Ezekiel’s vision of the temple included copious details. His description was given before the second temple was built, but there was no attempt by the Jews who returned from the exile to follow his design. It was a much larger and more impressive structure than either the second temple, or the previous one built by Solomon. In comparison, the one actually built was not ideal, and would not be the temple which was to be filled with God’s glory, as promised for Ezekiel’s temple. [Ezekiel 43:5; 44:4]

    Stephen said to the Jews, when Herod’s temple was standing, “Howbeit the most High dwelleth not in temples made with hands.” [Acts 7:48] Paul said the same to the men of Athens. [Acts 17:24]

    A temple is where people offer sacrifices to God. Some wonder why Ezekiel described an altar, and sacrifices, if his temple has to do with the Christian church, as those things have passed away; but in Hebrews we read, “We have an altar, whereof they have no right to eat which serve the tabernacle.” [Hebrews 13:10]

    In the New Testament, the saints are described as a temple. [Ephesians 2:20-22] They offer spiritual sacrifices. The sacrifices offered in Ezekiel’s temple must be types and figures of these spiritual offerings. Peter said, “Ye also, as lively stones, are built up a spiritual house, an holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices, acceptable to God by Jesus Christ.” [1 Peter 2:5]

    Some claim that in the millennium, animal sacrifices will be resumed, but that contradicts scriptures such as Isaiah 65:25, “The wolf and the lamb shall feed together, and the lion shall eat straw like the bullock: and dust shall be the serpent’s meat. They shall not hurt nor destroy in all my holy mountain, saith the LORD.” How can animal sacrifices be offered, if nothing may be hurt there?

    Jesus identified himself with the temple of God, and the Spirit was given to him beyond measure. [John 3:34] He said God’s temple is to be a house of prayer. [Luke 19:46, citing Isaiah 56:7] He said, “destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up.” [John 2:19] Since Jesus was raised up from the grave, the temple of God was revived, and ascended to heaven.

    According to Paul, every believer is a temple of God. [1 Corinthians 3:16; 6:19] The church, consisting of those who are “in Christ,” is depicted as a temple, [Ephesians 2:20-22] and the saints “sit together in heavenly places.” [Ephesians 2:5-6]

    Living holy lives, acceptable unto God, is “our reasonable service,” Paul said. [Romans 12:1] He encouraged believers to be “fervent in spirit; serving the Lord; rejoicing in hope; patient in tribulation; continuing instant in prayer.” [Romans 12:11-12] He wrote: “the kingdom of God is not meat and drink; but righteousness, and peace, and joy in the Holy Spirit. For he that in these things serveth Christ is acceptable to God… therefore follow after the things which make for peace, and things wherewith one may edify another.” [Romans 14:17-19]

    Peter said the saints are “a royal priesthood,” who “shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light.” [1 Peter 2:9]

    John said the saints who overcome will be made pillars in the temple. [Revelation 3:12] In his vision of the New Jerusalem, John saw no temple, but said “the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are the temple of it.” [Revelation 21:22]

    When Jesus was raised from the grave, and ascended to heaven, Isaiah’s prophecy was fulfilled: “And it shall come to pass in the last days, that the mountain of the Lord’s house shall be
    established in the top of the mountains, and shall be exalted above the hills.” [Isaia 2:2] Jesus represents “the mountain of the Lord’s house.”

    The dimensions of the temple provided by Ezekiel reveal that its courts are spacious, and that everything in the temple conforms to a plan; its dimensions need to be taken in a spiritual sense. A spiritual temple is not measured in units consisting of literal cubits. Ezekiel specified that the cubits in his prophecy differed from regular cubits. The measuring reed employed was “six cubits long by the cubit and a hand breadth.” [Ezekiel 40:5] The dimensions of the altar are also specified in these unusual units. [Ezekiel 43:13] Similarly the heavenly Jerusalem is described in terms of “angelic cubits.” [Revelation 21:17] Who knows what an “angelic cubit” might be? It signifies a spiritual standard of measurement. Of one thing we can be certain; it is not a literal, earthly cubit, as spiritual things are not designed with dimensions given in earthly units.

    The location Jerusalem. Ezekiel connected the temple with the promised land, and “the mountains of Israel.” It is, in fact, one of the “mountains of Israel,” as it is a revelation that included several promises, and those mountains represent God’s promises. By its central location, on a high mountain, Ezekiel’s temple appears as the most prominent feature of the land. Within its boundaries, territory is assigned to the priests and Levites, and to the city.

    Ezekiel’s description includes the wall, porches, gates, courts, the altar, and the temple itself. The wall signifies a boundary that separates the church from the outside world. This implies the temple must be designed for the present age, as in the age to come, why would there be any need for a wall? In the day when the earth is “full of the knowledge of the LORD, as the waters cover the sea,” why have a wall?

    Since there is a wall, it could not be a “mellenniall
    temple,” as some have claimed; in some millennial theories, the hordes of Gog nial and Magog are said to come against “a land of unwalled villages.” That would not apply to the existing Jewish state, where there is a very prominent wall, and neither could it apply in a millennium, if Ezekiel’s temple was present, with its impressively thick wall; how could it be a future millennial temple, when it has a prominent wall?

    Ezekiel’s prophecy of the temple depicts the church as a spiritual temple located in the promised land. The land is associated with Christ, as for the priests who minister there, possessing God is in lieu of possessing land. “I am their inheritance: and ye shall give them no possession in Israel: I am their possession.” [Ezekiel 44:28]

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    https://creationconcept.wordpress.com/2012/03/08/why-did-ezekiel-describe-a-temple/
     
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    My guess is that some truly gifted people living around the time of Zerubbabel somehow got guidance that they did not have to build the Ezekiel temple complex at that time.

     
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    lots of crackpot stuff..celebrating Xmas as the birth of the antichrist is really crazy. He must never have been in Palestine in the fall or winter.

    As one nomadic people followed another on the Eurasian steppes, so the identification of Gog and Magog shifted. In the 9th and 10th centuries these kingdoms were identified by some with the lands of the Khazars, a Turkic people who had converted to Judaism and whose empire dominated Central Asia–the 9th-century monk Christian of Stavelot referred to Gazari, said of the Khazars that they were "living in the lands of Gog and Magog" and noted that they were "circumcised and observing all [the laws of] Judaism".[77][78] Arab traveler ibn Fadlan also reported of this belief, writing around 921 he recorded that "Some hold the opinion that Gog and Magog are the Khazars".[79]

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    lots of crackpot stuff..celebrating Xmas as the birth of the antichrist is really crazy. He must never have been in Palestine in the fall or winter.

    As one nomadic people followed another on the Eurasian steppes, so the identification of Gog and Magog shifted. In the 9th and 10th centuries these kingdoms were identified by some with the lands of the Khazars, a Turkic people who had converted to Judaism and whose empire dominated Central Asia–the 9th-century monk Christian of Stavelot referred to Gazari, said of the Khazars that they were "living in the lands of Gog and Magog" and noted that they were "circumcised and observing all [the laws of] Judaism".[77][78] Arab traveler ibn Fadlan also reported of this belief, writing around 921 he recorded that "Some hold the opinion that Gog and Magog are the Khazars".[79]

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gog_and_Magog
     
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    Thank you for those fascinating details and theory! Wow!!!!!!!!!!
     
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    Fadlan is the Arab who traveled with the vikings.
     
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    I admit that I am likely to fail but my nation Canada seems to be in an interesting position to at least take a serious
    stab at greatly increasing economic activity in much of the Middle East. Succeeding in doing this could greatly decrease the tendency toward WWIII beginning there.


    Global Warming and Environment: Rejecting Alarmism and Focusing on Concrete Improvements


     
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    You could be correct.......
    but my wife and I visited in Truro, N. S., just last Sunday and I would feel guilty if
    ocean levels were to rise rapidly without my at the minimum having given them a fair
    warning about how what could happen....... could perhaps be avoided?!


    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...w-scheer-and-m-p-bernier-to-cooperate.560152/


    The Greenland 2019 melt and forcing M. P. Andrew Scheer and M. P. Bernier to cooperate?


    Here is a question that can FORCE M. P. ANDREW SCHEER AND M. P. MAXIME BERNIER TO begin to cooperate at least some..... The situation along the Bay of Fundy is too serious to ignore in the light of the melting that is happening this summer on the land based Greenland Ice Pack.

    "If average ocean levels rose by eight to ten cms (3 or 4 inches) could high tide...
    ... rise by one meter in the Isthmus of Chignecto in Nova Scotia, Canada?

    This question is logical because the geography of Canada's Bay of Fundy produces the world's highest tides. In my part of Nova Scotia in Guysborough County there is very little funnelling of tidal waters......... so high tide is only about one to one point five meters above low tide.

    In the eastern area of the Bay of Fundy high tide levels are up by ten to fifteen meters."

    https://www.bayoffundy.com/about/highest-tides/

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    The fact that the Bay of Fundy is nearly two hundred miles long means that the previous high tide waters CANNOT FULLY DRAIN before the next high tide waters pile on top of them. Also the land form of the Bay of Fundy has a funnelling effect that produces the world's most extreme tides. Anchorage, Alaska has the second highest tides in the world and thus.... I fear that people living along the Bay of Fundy and Anchorage, Alaska should be very interested in every new replica of Sorek that Israel and other nations build because mega-scale desalination of ocean water for agriculture in nations with lots of deserts is really good news for them!


    Here is a part of the full context of our situation that to my thinking puts pressure on us to resort to drastic measures?


    Responding to a BEAR market vs a Bull market?




     
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    I don't have the background necessary to argue with Grant R. Jeffrey on this topic:

    Grant Jeffrey:
     
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