Recalling Gavin Newsom now up to 1.5 million votes.

I did not know that. I assumed being trans she was a Democrat.

 

Arnold isn’t exactly a conservative. He did push for the electric car infrastructure developments. Incidentally the very infrastructure that the Trump administration tried to block, but failed once Ford and GM jumped on board with the electric car revolution with great gusto and fan fare.

 

Nothing wrong with that. Let us not forget, that what put the nail in the California GOP power’s coffin was their repeated attacks on Mexican-Americans. They became so radicalized that they became a joke, and voters gave them the cold shoulder. The blue shift in Arizona has lot to do with the policies of Republican officials that have been designed to do harm to the Mexican-American community. The era of old fashion Republicanism is coming to an end. As it becomes more and more disgusting to more and more people.

 

In Oregon, the state with one of the lowest rates of infection in the country, the greatest outbreak has been in prisons, among both prisoners and guards. It only makes sense that they would be among the first to get vaccinated.

 

The cases in Oregon are on a rise. About twice what they were a few months ago.

 

What, you thought the Kardashian/Jenner clan was liberal? Democratic? I’m surprised how much press they get, considering they have an audience of no more than around 4 million, a rather small minority of Americans.

 

It probably came out of a right wing think tank. It is a tactic that they have been using all up and down the West Coast. When Jay Inslee, the Governor of Washington was first elected, his seating in office was delayed half a year, due to repeated Republican court challenges. They then tried to recall him. They have repeatedly tried to recall Oregon’s Kate Brown, to no avail. They have tried to recall mayors from Seattle to San Diego. It seems to me, to be more of a harassment, than serious political issues.

 

You're right, it's just a cheap juvenile distractionary tactic State Republicans have been using for decades. I just read the other day that in the 170 years of California's history, there have been well over 200 attempts by conservatives to try and break up the state.

 

Old fashioned Republicans were abolitionists who helped free the slaves and started the Republican party because they were tired of the wigs.

We no longer have slaves and racist people are disappearing. Times have changed.

 

You made a statement excusing (Or redefining) abuse of power when no laws are being broken. I gave you an example. Well?

 

No, you did not give me an 'example', clearly, you do not understand what is, or is not, 'abuse of power'.

ONe does not have to actually break the law to abuse power. That's not a redefinition. But that doesn't mean a new law, though it might be unconstitutional, is abuse of power. Enacted laws are not 'abuse of power', that's democracy, like the law or not. Can a law be unconstitutional? sure, then sue to get it undone. But that isn't 'abuse of power' that's all part of democracy, the process the founders created for self-correction. it' just liberal democracy in action, noting that democracy is flawed, no one is claiming it isn't.

See, the reason that the 'Patriot Act' is not 'abuse of power', though it may be unconstitutional, can be better understood this way: Who are you going to impeach for enacting the law? The entire congress and the prez?

see? That's where your logic wanes. 'Abuse of power' is something a President, or a Judge, or a Senator, A congressman, etc., does. It's not something all three branches of government do in concert, through negotiation, though committee, amendments, then the act is signed by the prez. You can complain with 'well, the gov has gone astray, we need to elect new leaders', but you are not going to be able to impeach all three bodies of government, which is abuse of power would conceivably allow us to do. How are you going to do it with all three branches? It's absurd. So, if that can't be done, it cannot be abuse of power, it could be a government steering the country in the wrong direction, but that's not an impeachable offense, that's a matter for the electorate to do something about with the vote.

 

Calling it something else changes nothing. Covid was used to justify abuse of power and overreach.

Jenner actually won medals, not participation trophies

 

Technically you are entirely correct; bravo. However the devil is in the nuances. "Abuse of power" is not a defined crime ("abuse of office" is a very specifically defined crime) so it is left up to the beholder to decide, which opens up a kettle of worms. A secondary nuance is that no member of congress can be impeached for any action. Presidents can be impeached for treason, bribery, and high crimes and misdemeanors, but not "abuse of power." Impeachment of the judiciary is a bit more loosy-goosy.

 

Like I said, it is clear you do not know what term 'abuse of power means. Your second reference is vacuous, be specific.

You can hardly call something 'something else', when you can't use the term properly in the first place.

 

The conversation was regarding Doofen's misuse/misunderstanding of the phrase 'abuse of power'.

 

This recall IS a waste of time. No true Republican has a chance of being elected Governor of California.
It's fun to watch though.

 

My example is well within the definition. I have many more and Newsom is being recalled because many agree with me.

 

I think he abused his power telling people to stay home while he went out to eat and over 2 million people signed the petition so hopefully his days are numbered.

 

I don't think this recall effort will go any further than the plan to break California up into 2 states went. Nowhere.
They don't even talk about breaking California up anymore do they?