Religions and supernatural beliefs are the enemy of world peace, as shown by 5000 years of war.

Religions and supernatural beliefs are the enemy of world peace, as shown by 5000 years of war.

Supernatural believing faith-based religious hierarchies have been lying so much to their people that the more vulnerable of their people actually believe the --- mythical, allegorical, imaginary icons that they are persuaded,--- against all logic and reason, --- to believe in as real. That is abuse to a mind.

A mind is a person’s most treasured possession and to allow liars and con men to effect and infect so many minds, --- should be made illegal, as well as a sin, --- but of course, --- the world is not ready for a moral religious lesson.

Logic, reason, logos, intelligent thinking, --- it seems, --- are no match against the vile con men who run the religions and the mythos they and the faith poison they use to damage precious minds.

We and our ancestors have paid a high price to the religious con men that have damaged so many minds. A huge price in minds, cash as well as; world peace.

Those con men should be censored.

Religions are a good thing. They have just forgotten that they were created to produce peace.

Not the *******ned God produced 5,000 years of our war filled history.

While those same religions oppressed non-believers, women and gays. As the majority, the religious also impose poverty.

The supernatural belief fostered by the mainstream, --- immoral, homophobic, and misogynous religions, --- and their con men hierarchy, --- are not a friend to peace.

They should be outlawed as soon as possible.

This would allow what Jesus preached in terms of electing a human God.

Human Gods can make peace and I suggest we elect one, as in the Roman System, democracy; to bring peace to the world that we are *******ned destroying for our children.

Their precious minds are in your hands.

Logos or mythos must be chosen by all.

Peace wants Logos, not mythos, faith, or an unproven supernatural concept of any kind.

Trust the method for peace that Jesus preached. Elect a God. A man. Jesus asked his people if they had forgotten that they were Gods.

Most had, but not the Gnostics who had taught the Roman Jesus.

Be a Gnostic and recognize the evil of religions, as well as the good parts.

I would prefer to focus on the good, but my love has created a great hate for the religious con men who harm so many.

That hate forces me to call them out, even as I recognize the need for community churches. Less so now as in the past.

Our world cannot afford to lose good minds to religious faith based supernatural thinking that is helping to destroy our world.

Peace and decent morality would like to prevail.

Be decent parents and people and tell your children that there is nothing to fear from the supernatural, because there is only good, in what you can imagine somehow; even if you do not see it in your imagination immediately. Think dreams.

Minds are too precious to allow frivolous impairment with supernatural beliefs.

Save your mind by discarding faith without facts and the imaginary supernatural realm.

Please.

Regards
DL

 

They produced the big 10, far superior to anything I have seen in gubmint.

The price we paid as a result of gubmint con me pales religious con men.

Yes, censored from making law and taking us to war, definitely NOT censored from evengelizing their religion.

False, Not all religions are designed to foster peace.

Da gubmint does that, not religion. Religion has the right to discriminate provided it does not cause injury or damage, the gubmint does not.

Evidence?

Outlaw religion? How do you intend to do that, gag every person on the planet?

But thats not what you said in your first line, you included everything, 'all' religion, not 'just' con men.

What are your facts that the supernatural realm is 'imaginary'?

Seems to me religion did a far better job promoting peace than any gubmint I have ever see throughout history

 

Poverty is imposed on a population through the tax system.

One might see that as under government/our oligarch owners control, but the great majority of the people claim a religious affiliation, be they in government or not and thus must, if you go be the numbers, see the religious, as the controllers of governments, as imposing poverty.

Gandhi called forced poverty, --- what we are doing world wide, --- violence against the poor.

That violence has decreased the life expectancy of the average U.S. citizen.

Regards
DL

 

And the quest for political power runs along neck to neck.

 

I like that. Jim Foxworthy?
I think every thing can be summed in one word.... Don’t. Beyond that , I think George Carlin does a good job of analyzing the 10; check it and his discussion of religion on YouTube...scathing.

 

Religions were created to create CONTROL.

 

Indeed. They try to be more important than the government. All fascist regimes do.

Regards
DL

 

Its funny as hell, but he didnt analyse 'religion' he analysed G/god, like so many he failed to recognize there is a difference.

false. everyone has a religion, some are founded in G/god, some in other things.

The bill of rights, which memorialized our 'Reserved Rights', rights that if not stipulated to by those who wanted to create the government would have caused the constitution to fall right on its ass in failure, therefore it goes without saying our 'Reserved Rights', are in fact outside 'legitimate' gubmint regulation, but when has our 'belief' in the 'rule of law' ever stopped them violating it?

Who polices the police? Give me a good laugh, tell me scrotumus maximus! LOL

 

FYI: Anything the government regulates is NOT a 'Right'!

The government has NO legitimate authority to regulate your 'Rights'!

If they do regulate what was intended to be your rights then they unlawfully converted them to privileges which are subject to the whim of the government.

Once converted to privileges they can take them away at their leisure, and you have NO RIGHT to contest, which is exactly what they are doing.

Death by 10000 papercuts!

Yes and once your rights are dissolved then you will get your fascism and a plethora of other lovely 'ism's' to go along with it.

 

@Greatest I am The problem is that all your main claim is false, that religion is the main source of war. Civilization, simply law of the strongest, but then political ideologies are source of war. How many people died simply in the name of communism, an antitheist ideology. We could also mention all the death caused by "Freedom" and "Democracy".

Do people really kill each other because of religion ?
I doubt it. I suppose mankind crave for war, conflict and then a postiori find reasons to justificate that. As such people who conquered in name of the law of strongest are at least the less hypocrites.

 

Strange that you know so little of the better 10 that Christianity plagiarized from the Egyptian Book of the Dead. Even the Gnostic Christian 10 are superior by a long shot.

Regards
DL

 

Te he.
You say, right after, --- "Yes, censored from making law and taking us to war, definitely NOT censored from evengelizing their religion."

Their religions are led by gods of war.

I agree that the less censorship we suffer, the better.

Regards
DL

 

You are ass backwards here my friend.

Secular governments are leading the acceptance "as normal" of all LGBTQ.

I add N for the Norm.

Religions that are not homophobic or misogynous, I agree, will not discriminate against women and gays. They will discriminate for them. That is not what the G D mainstream religions are doing.

Religions that are homophobic and misogynous are doing a lot of harm.

The government, under whose law you likely live, does have the right and duty to discriminate negatively against sub groups of our countries.

You also have a duty to do the same.

Take sub groups like murderers, thieves, rapists, etc.

The law here says that if I see a murder or rape, and do not actively discriminate against the perpetrator, I am breaking the law.

Every law is made to discriminate negatively against someone or something.

Regards
DL

 

They are dying by 1000 cuts. The tipping point has been reached a long time ago and education of that fact is all that is required.

Stats say it all and I track those as best as I can.

Just the comparison of the religions, at the moral levels, would serve to kill off all but the best ideologies. Clear the field so that the best can shine.

Regards
DL

 

The fact that no fact has ever been presented to show the reality of such a place.

That was the belief of the ancient intelligentsia, before the stupid literal reading of myths cursed the land.

Further, if we are to posit that a supernatural realm does exist and that they are all somewhat the same, you end in a fractal type of multi supernatural realms that all hide from each other.

The old Gnostic God over god notions. Hollywood has been profiting from Gnostic thinking forever.

It is all in our myths.

Regards
DL

 

You Americants cant seem to get much of anything right lately.

Rights have to have an enforcement mechanism to be real.

Americants cant enforce their way out of a wet paper bag.

Regards
DL

 

You will only abolish religion once you abolish death. Religion solves mankind's main problem, which is that one's own death is inevitable. It does that through either positing that there is no death, just a transition to a "heavenly" state or teaching how to enter a state of "enlightenment" where somehow death does not matter, or both.

And the thing there is that the abolition of Death now seems both possible and likely soon

 

You thinkers are always a hard sell.

I agree with much of your evaluation, except for your first.

My main claim is not false. Consider.

Has the great majority of us always claimed some religious affiliation? Yes.

To think that the minority of atheists, even while outlawed at some points in time, would be manipulating the vast majority to war is counterintuitive.

Right?

Regards
DL

 

The main problem is our built in insecurity that causes us to create tribes and religions in the first place. It is connected to our need for fellowship.

The instinct is fine. It is how we mitigate it's negative side that is the problem.

We do not fear death. We fear being alone.

Regards
DL

 

If you can break some law of physics yes, furthermore death and religion is just an aspect.

Religion are first social phenomenon, primitive and shared constitution.

 

I don't pretend that atheism lead to war.

Religion or not, it doesn't matter from my point of view. I consider war as a part of human nature.
Then war is expressed as war of religion, war of politics and so on.

I view religion and dogmatism as part of human nature. People who pretend to act for and know what os the greater good are as worrying to me that lunatics that pretend to know the will of an all powerfull god.

The trouble of religious lunatics is just to me the surface of a deeper problem with jiman nature. A trouble we can't potentially entirely solve.

 

Do you think religion played any part in the cold war, which has left the nuclear sword of damacles swinging over the civilized world for 70+ years?

 

False, thats patently nonsense

Rights are stand alone, they do not require enforcement to be a legitimate right, I cant imagine where you dug that dilemma up from?

If the government can regulate if its not a right, its privilege, thats law 101.

Statist religion, yes!

 

Sounds like government should be illegal

 

Spot on. I don't know where these atheists develop their hatred towards believers in God. But, the hatred has caused hundreds of millions of people over history to die at the hands of those who hate God and their believers. Who killed and starved the 30 to 50 million Ukrainians by Stalin? Who starved and killed the 60 to 80 million by Mao. Who started the killing of Jews by Hitler? Not the religious. It was the hatred of the religious. Hate is the true killer and this atheist who started this thread is the perfect person to kill another hundred million believers of their God.