Religions and supernatural beliefs are the enemy of world peace, as shown by 5000 years of war.

The stupid copy paste.

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DL

 

I was sending you apologetics quotes.

 

Preterists dont believe that.

 

Sometimes, when they arent pushing fire and Brimstone and hatred for the other, some Christians do tell me that Christians are actually only about Christ, and Jesus is more of a hippy; peace, love, and all that. But yet these Christians still push to include the "old testament" in bibles, to teach stories from the OT etc.

Why not jettison the OT and call it heresy or something? That would have prevented and could still prevent a lot of attrocity and hate.

 

The Old Testament says that God is slow to anger.

 

Yet it gives numerous examples of that not being so.

 

We cannot outlaw stupidity.

Or the immoral thinking of some.

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DL

 

Quoted from gotquestions.org.

 

Quoted from gotquestions.org battle of Armageddon article.

 

What you wisely describe is Gnostic Christian thinking.

That is how we end in naming Yahweh a vile demiurge.

Moral people tend to know that a genocidal god cannot be a good god.

Christian morals tend to be self serving, as an immoral double set will be.

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DL

 

Quoted from gotquestions.org article about Christian Gnosticism.

 

Why are you mixing truth and myth?

Do you know the difference?

You are failing to show why your friends sent the inquisitions out to pester us to near extinction, the way you are emulating, poorly.

Why hid those truths?

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DL

 

Gotquestions.org about the Bible.

 

Can't even stay on topic. Cheep bot.

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DL

 

https://www.gotquestions.org/God-different.html

 

I emboldened the arguments with which I disagree, saw as nonsensical overly simplistic or those sentences that I felt were irrelevant and did not support the premise of the OP. Really Greatest, this was one scattershot post. I like the closing salutation so I left it untouched.

 

We had a new age guy wander into our church once. He sat quietly listening to us bear our testimonies of our Father in Heaven, His Son Jesus Christ and the Holy Ghost bearing witness of these things being true. And, testimonies of other things as well. We all it our Fast and Testimony Meeting held once a month. Towards the end, this man got up and went to the podium and introduced himself as "Family." When anyone asked him his name he said it was Family. He was from an area New Age Church talking about all should seek him and follow him. No one did. We were polite and let him freely talk.

After the meeting, he stayed around while we were in Sunday School and the kids were in Primary. I saw him down in our library talking to a few women, one in particular. So, I went down there and he was talking about searching for the ultimate Topa Topa. Babbling on about things you wrote about. In our area and visible was an actual 6,000ft mountain named Topa Topa. Yep... I asked him if he was searching for Topa Topa where God is. And, he said yes. So, I said follow me outside and I can do that for you. We walked around the building until the mountain was in view and I said there is Mount Topa Topa. You have found your God. Now let us be confident in our God. Have a safe journey and I left him standing on the sidewalk. He gave me a smirk and I smiled back and he walked away towards the mountain.

 

Are you saying that you believe in some New Age beliefs? https://answersingenesis.org/blogs/...ern-spirituality-and-dangers-it-poses-church/

 

Very good answer. I could add that people view the OT God as one who allows man to slaughter other people in his name. And, God also does this himself with Noah's Flood and Sodom and Gomorrah. Much of the OT is about God's dealings with Israel over 1600 years. The worldly events and battles between civilizations in the middle east areas. As where the NT is about a short period of time depicting the events of Jesus Christ and his Apostles. Not about the worldly wars and battles between people going on. Centered on Christ's purpose being here which is His Atonement including the Resurrection. Not how the Father and Son in OT times dealt with Israel. It was based on individual progression to not only salvation but exaltation in eternal life.

 

No. I disposed of a New Age believer and preacher from our midst. Sent him on his way.

 

The sin of Sodom and Gommorah wasnt just about homosexuality. God is not against gay people, God is against sin. A straight person has sin. God created men and women, so anything other than that is a sin. Sometimes they live together before marriage, which isnt right, but two wrongs dont make a right.

https://answersingenesis.org/contradictions-in-the-bible/what-was-primary-sin-sodom-gomorrah/

 

Why did God order Moses to kill all the Midianite boys? Was it because in the culture at the time or based on the order of creation, they would legally transmit the bloodline of a judged nation down, and it wouldnt be fair to the other people who were executed? When Jesus died on the cross, people were judged individually for their sins, not collectively. During the Great Tribulation, the period of grace will not exist and nations will be judged as a whole.

I believe the reason that the Amalekite women and children were executed was because of collective corporate judgement, similar to Rahab and the Midianite kids. I believe that the Midianite boys were killed so they wouldnt fight back against the Israelites and they might take revenge and there was nowhere else for them to go. Rahab was almost killed, because there was nowhere else for go, and maybe because she wouldnt fight back against the Israelites and get revenge.

do you believe that any amalekite person who fought against the Israelites was sinning against God, same with the people who fought David in his unideal wars of conquest?

I dont believe that the Israelites were divinely obligated by divine law to execute the descendants of the Caananites that they spared. The Caananites had nowhere else to go, at that point.

 

What do you think it means to be Jewish? Following Hebrew laws and customs, and being connected to the Hebrews by religion, ethnicity, or culture. Or everything I just mentioned, but with God's laws that he gave Moses instead of Hebrewisms?

Doesnt the word Jewish have something to do with Gods dealings with Israel that you mentioned that happened during those 1600 years? Contrary to Islam, Jesus and Paul didnt tear down pagan altars-they simply preached the Gospel. The way that the Father and Son in OT times dealt with Israel wasnt different from how Israel deals with Palestine today, or how the US dealt with Japan during WW2.

What do you think about people who said that Constantine or the Holy Roman Empire outlawed gays?

 

You kind of use the word "believe" in the context of opinion. Which, you are certainly right to do. I do know that the people of the OT were under the lesser law of Moses. So, the idea of collective judgement is certainly a possibility. Although, it's also clear that the Lord was interested in the individual as well during OT times. He didn't change from the OT to the NT on that either. The "Law" was different and applied differently in the understanding the people had at that time.

Also, I have a different opinion on the word "all." Does that mean every last one? Sometimes it does and sometimes it doesn't. Context has an important roll to play on the understanding of "all." All the Caananites were to be killed? I know that Saul was damned for not killing all the people. So, in that case, yes, all.

 

Were they mandated to be executed to the point where they couldnt flee or leave the land and they were in sin if even those people tried fighting back against the Israelites? OT Law was really no different than the harsh things Israel or Middle Eastern countries do today, or America with Japan during the war. O believe that the Rapture will be collective judgement.

I believe that being a Jew has to do by definition with the Law of Moses.