usfan, I am well aware that certain people are unaware and mystified over activities which are natural which is when the word phenomena comes into the conversation, I am well aware of such reality. When I was a young boy, I was mystified of many things, until I gained knowledge of them, which demystified said things in my mind. What I was saying with the two previous posts, is that because there are people who know about creation, those same people throughout their life course, are not mystified about anything, because everything in existence, has a rational and scientific explanation. I have found that Occidental man, has the least knowledge of all and because of his influence over the populations of the earth, has in turn diminished the mental viability of all of those who view him as God, which is why many of the prophets spoke ill of deification, due to the already existent and coming influence (keep in mind I am referring to the time of the prophets) of The Occident. Prophet Dawud (David) made this statement for a reason, and the reason is because there is no God or Devil outside of Man and Mankind, so the prophets were not against deification, they were against the arrogance that some engender among themselves, because of certain "favors" of knowledge and wisdom from their understanding of said knowledge. I heard it all of the time, the sickening arrogance of certain Europeans due to their advancements that were gotten through not so stellar means.