Religious freedom is code word for intolerance, says civil rights chairman.

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  1. dixon76710

    dixon76710 Well-Known Member

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    What silliness. You can now discriminate against anyone you like on any basis AS LONG AS its not on one of the handful of selected basis given special protection.
     
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    Equality would involve your panties getting all bunched up in a knot, regardless of who it is being discriminated against.
     
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    ????? Nothing literal about such an interpretation. Pretty tortured and twisted.
     
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    I dislike anyone being discriminated against but I support the right of small businesses to do so provided there are not special excepted classes. You just want the ability to discriminate against a group you do not like while belonging to several protected classes yourself.
     
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    In other words, you have no tolerance for it. That's precisely what I mean. Tolerance isn't the issue. It's WHAT you tolerate and what you don't that's the issue.
     
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    No it's reasonable. You either should be allowed to discriminate regardless of who or what you are discriminating against or you can't. There is no grey area here.
     
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    I never liked the term "Religious Freedom." Freedom is freedom. Same thing with "Religious Liberty." Individual Liberty is Individual Liberty.

    It's silly.
     
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    Tolerance of stupidity is not tolerance.
     
  10. Object227

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    Yes it is. You even say that it is while denying it.
     
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    By that logic, when I get upset about someone being murdered, I'm murder intolerant. Good luck with that logic. Religious freedom is nothing more than a disguise to let the feeble minded practice their idiotic fairy tales and discriminate against people.
     
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    Correct. What's the problem?
     
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    Civil rights is a code for total subjugation of the people.

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    Well, sure, as a member of the ruling matriarchy you can make fun.
     
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    Washington examiner, really? If you expect your link to be taken seriously maybe choose a source that isn't so rightist, why would Islam be targeted when the vast majority of " religious freedom " proponents are either religious/Christians or right wing sympathizers/activists?
     
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    If you own a Bakery, and it is your regular normal business, and you sell cakes to everyone else, except people you identify as Gay or to Blacks or other people you discriminate against.

    It is wrong.
    Beliefs notwithstanding or not.

    Refusing unusual requests for products you do not ordinarily make is quite another matter, such as refusing to make cakes shaped like a penis or other types of cakes, not normally made by your Bakery.

    You can't force a Kosher bakery to produce non Kosher cakes.
     
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    Religious Freedom:

    Luke 1:67-79

    "And his father Zacharias was filled with the Holy Ghost, and prophesied, saying,

    68Blessed be the Lord God of Israel; for he hath visited and redeemed his people,

    69And hath raised up an horn of salvation for us in the house of his servant David;

    70As he spake by the mouth of his holy prophets, which have been since the world began:

    71That we should be saved from our enemies, and from the hand of all that hate us;

    72To perform the mercy promised to our fathers, and to remember his holy covenant;

    73The oath which he sware to our father Abraham,

    74That he would grant unto us, that we being delivered out of the hand of our enemies might serve him without fear,

    75In holiness and righteousness before him, all the days of our life.

    76And thou, child, shalt be called the prophet of the Highest: for thou shalt go before the face of the Lord to prepare his ways;

    77To give knowledge of salvation unto his people by the remission of their sins,

    78Through the tender mercy of our God; whereby the dayspring from on high hath visited us,

    79To give light to them that sit in darkness and in the shadow of death, to guide our feet into the way of peace."
     
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    No big woof, it seems to me, that a belief or Religion is ok, until somebody hates it.

    As long as you are not forced into any thing by a Religion, why do you care ?

    Hokey Religions have existed a long time, as Han Solo said, Ancient weapons and Hokey Religions are no substitute for a good Blaster at your side, I happen to agree.

    And to clarify, Discrimination must be proven, if you want to brandish Pork and other non Kosher stuff in Jewish Synagogues you would get removed, not as Discrimination, but for violating the sanctity of the Synagogue.

    People have rules and if you wish, you must play by those rules or stay out of it.
     
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    Agreed. SAdly this has morphed into a pushing of religion on the population via law though.

    Or at least attempts to.
     
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    When Christians are scapegoated like Muslims are, I will defend you. Meantime it is Christians who scapegoat Muslims
     
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    ‘It will be a bloodbath’: Inside the Kansas militia plot to ignite a religious war
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...gnite-a-religious-war/?utm_term=.0ccf6bbf332c

    Trump’s ‘Fine People’ on Trial for Terror
    Three men went on trial last week in Kansas for plotting to bomb a Muslim apartment building. They’re not the kinds of accused terrorists Trump likes to tweet about, though.
    https://www.thedailybeast.com/trumps-fine-people-on-trial-for-terror
     
  21. Chester_Murphy

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    The practice of meditation as is done with the god given directions for yoga has and is being taught in public schools. That's a religious belief that is being taught and approved by the government. It was handed down by one of the gods of Buddhism to a mortal and followed by believers.

    If there is a separation of church and state, these public schools paying meditation technique educators are in violation of the 1st Amendment to the Constitution, or our Supreme Court needs removed and replaced with folks who understand the Constitution.

    This is all tied to removing our Bill of Rights.
     
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    I'll add the attack on the words, "In God We Trust" on money.

    The removal of the words, "under God", from the Pledge of Allegiance. Though they were not there when it was written, it shows a discrimination of Christian beliefs.

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    Adding under God shows what discrimination of people who do not believe in God. It was added to show Russia of that we
    How would you feel if we added the words under Allah?
    Half a century ago, at the height of anti-Communist fervor, Congress added the words ''under God'' to the Pledge of Allegiance. It was a petty attempt to link patriotism with religious piety, to distinguish us from the godless Soviets. No it is just a repetitious line the same way we say God bless you when someone sneezes.
     
  25. Renee

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    Gee, those Arabs must have learned from the Christians in Germany when they Slaughtered millions who werenot Christians.same dance...different steps.
     
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