Rep Ayanna Presley: include illegal immigrants, inmates in next coronavirus stimulus

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  1. After-Hour Prowler

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    American families are hurting and Pelosi held up the third stimulus over Art funding, same day voter registration & student loan forgiveness.

    Now Massachusetts rep Ayanna Presley
    Wants us to give money to illegals and prisoners in the next stimulus package.

    Too bad Charlie Manson & Jeffrey Dahmer did not live long enough to see this.

    What will Dzhokhar Tsarnaev “marathon bomber”, Scott Peterson “killed pregnant wife” or Ted Kaczynski “Unibomber” do with their stimulus money?

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.wa...-pressley-include-illegal-immigrants-inmates/

    I know the progressives have a large following, but I cannot believe the majority of the legal voters support this foolish idea.

    Thoughts?
     
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    I was pissed off when Trump gave zillions to his rich buddies. Were you? I can't believe that anyone thought making the 1% richer was a good idea. BTW Presley's idea is stupid.
     
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    Dispondent Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Liberals will support anything that takes money out of hard working American family's pockets and puts into the pockets of the undeserving...
     
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    Big deal.

    Anybody can "propose" anything.

    It doesn't have a prayer of actually becoming law, so what's the big deal?
     
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    Just pointing out the stupid things democrats want to do with tax payers money.

    With AOC pulling Biden’s strings these are the foolish things that progressives are prioritizing.

    Glad to hear that you agree it is not a good idea. Although I have a feeling Biden will do
    Anything AOC wants him to do.
     
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    I agree with you. Trump gave too much of a tax break to the super rich, but the middle class also received a tax break.

    I am a conservative independent & I end up usually voting republicans because they throw me more scraps than the democrats.

    I have never seen a payroll tax break under a democrat president.
     
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    Why do Democrats always fight for criminals?

    I always say, most Democrats aren't criminals, but most criminals are Democrats.

    If Democrats fought for Americans as hard as the fight for foreign nationals who sneak into America and come and go unchecked and unregulated at will, they would never lose an election.
     
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    What about tax increases and NEW taxes ?
     
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    Basically, it seems if it has the potential to harm Americans, empower bureaucrats, create chaos, bankrupt the taxpayer and/or assist our enemy, they are ALL FOR IT.
    Then boast that only their way is the way forward...the Progressive way,
     
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    Damned if you do damned if you don't ...

    IF illegals need to make money to support their families, then they might go out into public WITH the virus ... if they restart the infection rate, it may cost us another trillion dollars, rather than the $20 - 30 million to get them to stay home.

    I admit, it sucks to pay illegals - but will it be less expensive for us in the long run. Think about it.
     
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    I think when the foreign national that snuck into America tries to get money from the government, the government should inform ice and the foreign national should be arrested and deported.

    Democrats aid abet and encourage foreign nationals to sneak into America and even want to provide them with gifts paid for by Americans.
     
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    In a perfect world.

    In the real world, they are harvesting the food we need to eat to get us through 3 months of lock-down. Since in the real world, they are going to be here, we have the choice of incentivizing them to stay home, or we force them out into public spaces, possibly restarting the virus cycle - which would cost us another trillion plus ... it's not as easy a choice as you paint it.
     
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    Glad we agree

    Here you are justifying exploiting foreign nationals for slave wages under the table. Classy.

    Illegal immigrants are the Democrats new slaves.
     
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    Not justifying, just pointing out a simple fact. You can pretend it's not true - but right now, many of us have food on our table
    because of illegal workers, It's not good, it's not right - it's just a simple fact. We either deal with it or pretend it doesn't exist and face a possible restart of the virus life cycle.

    And you can try and preach from your high horse - but I guarantee YOU will be eating something in the next few days brought to you through the labor of illegal workers - and it's just as likely to be a Republican owned meat packing plant as it is to be a Democrat owned farm ...
     
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    Threatening Americans that if they don't cow tow to allowing foreign nationals to come and go unchecked and unregulated at will they will starve is pretty low.

    You act like the farms will just go away if they have to abide by hiring rules Democrats impose on Americans. Farms hire foreign nationals here illegally to avoid labor laws.

    Murder is going to happen, why try to stop it?
     
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    As I understand it, the stimulus is an advance tax credit. Which I don't entirely understand... but it sounds like a fancy way of saying 'we printed it out of our ass.' The cost will just be redistributed back to us in the form of inflation. Which, if true, will be suffered by the already impoverished, not the rich.

    Another way of thinking about this is like when you use your credit card to fix your transmission so you don't lose your job. You're still buying a new transmission. Just later for more money.

    Just in case any of you were thinking -'ya, give those billionaires' money to illegals and convicts! that'll show em!' Not how its working. Its your money. You'll be paying it back with perpetually more expensive milk, bread and gasoline because your money is less valuable because they just printed more.

    So lets please try to keep this stimulus about unshocking the economy instead of redistributing wealth. Because there isn't any wealth being redistributed.

    Yet, anyway. I guess some of you want to redistribute your wealth to convicts and illegals...? Now is certainly an odd time to start...
     
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    It's not a threat - it's a simple statement of fact. And Republican farm owners and meat-packing plants have been busted plenty of times for hiring illegals. Meat packing plants have the highest rate of injury of any industry, yet you're happy when you can buy meat and produce on sale ... it's just a fact of life. Either you pretend it doesn't exist or you accept reality.
    Right now, it's not a reality that can be changed in two weeks.
     
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    Is this supposed to make me support foreign nationals coming and going unchecked and unregulated at will? Just because some Republicans act like Democrats sometimes doesn't make what the Democrats do right.

    Either we are a nation of laws or we aren't. Foreign nationals here illegally should be sought out and deported. Americans who exploit, aid, abet, and provide them sanctuary should also be arrested. This includes people who knowingly hire landscapers and nannies here illegally.
     
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    Great. Do that in the future. Right now, we are eating because of their labor. It's a simple fact. They are here. It's a simple fact. Deal with the reality, not what should have been. You can pretend it's a Republican vs. Democrat thing but it's a
    function of capitalism. Capital seeks out the lowest paid workers it can get.
     
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    Except for...oh yah literally the last democrat president

    https://obamawhitehouse.archives.gov/blog/2012/02/22/president-obama-signs-payroll-tax-cut
     
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    The undeserving are the Democrat's base.
     
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    Nah, not illegals. Laborers on a work Visa, maybe.
     
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    I'm someone who supports the idea of citizenship for illegal immigrants with no criminal history here, but I had to facepalm when I saw some politicians and media outlets decrying this. Of course they aren't getting a stimulus check, they're not citizens here and I can't imagine many of them, if any, are filing tax returns and paying income tax. In order to even do so, I would think they'd have needed to commit identity theft in order to have a working SSN to use on the return, which is a crime and disqualifies them for the path to citizenship I'm in favor of.
     
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    Tomato's literally rotted on the vine when Alabama cracked down on illegal workers.

    One day your gonna have to face the fact that your leaders, Dems and Reps (Alabama is a pretty pure red state if I recall) realize that a lot of your economy is built on the backs of illegals.
     
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