Rep. Matt Gaetz: Bloomberg may face criminal probe for paying felons’ fines

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  1. Esperance

    Esperance Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    <TITLE EDITED TO MATCH LINKED ARTICLE>

    https://nypost.com/2020/09/23/rep-gaetz-bloomberg-may-face-criminal-probe-for-paying-felons-fines/

    The situation is being reviewed by the Florida Attorney General and there is plenty of evidence that it is an attempt to buy votes which constitutes a third degree felony under the Florida statutes.

    The NY Times even published an article about the, "intent," which can establish probable cause.

    And the statute itself says that even the attempt to trade something of value for voting a certain way is also a reason to be charged with election tampering.

    Since this is a state statute, the process can't be tampered with by Federal DOJ bureaucrats.

    Stay tuned.....
     
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  2. struth

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    the dems are so desperate they are bribing felons
     
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    Esperance Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It is actually kind of strange because Trump is leaps and bounds ahead of Biden in Florida. It must have something to do with a few House seats.
     
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    I think Goats would need to talk to the non profit Bloomie donated to.
     
  5. grapeape

    grapeape Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    FFS.....Matt Goetz is such an media whore.

    Goetz has shown NOTHING in any of his bloviation that Bloomberg actually asked them to vote, and even more so WHO to vote for.
     
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    Ok a Dem is paying your fine to get you off the hook but hey it's ok to vote for Trump. RIGHHHHTTTT. As if the gesture alone isn't buying a vote. We know the game, let's not play dumb.
     
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    Esperance Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Florida has its own RICO statutes. Nope, the source of the money also has weight in terms of, "attempt."
     
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    You mean like people that gave to Trump's foundation are guilty of misuse of funds?
    :roflol:
     
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    Read the article...the memo from Bloomberg highlights his intent was to bribe them to vote.

    Not looking good for Mike here.
     
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    Not sure what your trying to say here...Bloomberg stated he paid them off so they'd vote for Dems...read the link...
     
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    The florida law is ridiculous. Thats what Bloomberg is trying to point out.

    Show me where he said they have to vote for any certain party or person
     
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    That was clearly Bloomberg's intent, to fund vote's against Trump.
     
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    I have not read up on it much yet, but it is my understanding FL is also going to be able to bring RICO charges against anyone funding violent protests.
     
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    grapeape Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Your literally making that up
     
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    no it’s literally in the link
     
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    "A memo from the Bloomberg team, obtained Tuesday by the newspaper, explained that the billionaire businessman saw the effort as “a more cost-effective way of adding votes to the Democratic column than investing money to persuade voters who already have the right to vote.”

    We have identified a significant vote share that requires a nominal investment. The data shows that in Florida, Black voters are a unique universe unlike any other voting bloc, where the Democratic support rate tends to be 90%-95%,” the memo read.

    Gaetz argued that the memo helped prove that this could be viewed as bribery.

    “The law is clear, this is something of value, and I am encouraged after my conversation with the attorney general. I hope we have good law enforcement all over the country looking for the cheating and the tricks that these Democrats are going to try in this election,” he told the network."

    He is specifically paying off black felons sentences to get their votes...its a bribe..
     
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    From the link: "A memo from the Bloomberg team, obtained Tuesday by the newspaper, explained that the billionaire businessman saw the effort as “a more cost-effective way of adding votes to the Democratic column than investing money to persuade voters who already have the right to vote.”

    This is basically admission of intent.
     
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    hmmm.. no. Not like that at all. But why would you defend someone who was actively trying to illegally influence an election like Bloomberg?
     
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    Nothing more than a slap on the wrist at most will happen. Bloomberg is an elite, rules don't apply to them.
     
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    :roflol:

    One poll has Trump ahead, the rest have Biden ahead.

    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/president/fl/florida_trump_vs_biden-6841.html

    One poll would hardly qualify as "leaps and bounds".

    Anecdotal things like "I've seen internal data" have less credibility than the latest Bat Boy sighting.

    Nobody is denying that FL will be closely contested (and since Trump won it in 2016 he could even have a very slight edge as the race tightens).

    But, nowhere near "leaps and bounds".

    "leaps and bounds"?:roflol:
     
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    It's not Bloomies money.

    The Florida Rights Restoration Coalition is a nonpartisan group that has been fundraising to return all former felons in the state to the voting rolls. Desmond Meade, the group’s president, said the group does not share Bloomberg’s goal of empowering only one political side in the upcoming election.


    “Different people may give for different reasons, but we are in this for one reason, and that reason is to place people over politics,” Meade said. “We are concerned with people from all walks of life, from all sorts of politics.”
     
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    maybe. But Bloomberg was also very vocal about the Florida decision to fight against felons right to vote
     
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    you are correct. I missed it.

    Apologies
     
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    Oh yeah, he's WAY out in front

    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/president/fl/florida_trump_vs_biden-6841.html

    On topic, best of luck... I'm sure Bloomberg is on solid legal ground here, especially since the Florida rule he is flouting is probably unconstitutional anyway..

    Oh wait, it IS

    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/24/us/florida-felon-voting-court-judge-ruling.html
     
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    Um the SCOTUS said it was perfectly legal
    https://www.politico.com/states/flo...ows-limits-on-felon-voting-in-florida-1301508

    It would be nice if you can keep up to date on the topic
     
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