Reparations I can live with...

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  1. modernpaladin

    modernpaladin Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So... anyone with an ancestor that fought for the Union between 1860-1865 should be exempt, right?
     
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  2. edna kawabata

    edna kawabata Well-Known Member

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    Maybe you are talking about Portland where over 200 have been arrested for mostly non-violent crimes? I live in a large city that had a march by the black community for peace in the streets last weekend to end gun violence. They've done that a lot and it doesn't seem to work. We've also had BLM protests. Looting and violence occurred downtown during the protests. The looting was done by criminal opportunists who need to be caught and prosecuted (some were). The violence was by the police and some are being charged.
    The city council is wrestling with idea of "defunding the police" that is diverting some of its monies to social services. A large number of police runs are psych and family issues and they are not trained adequately to handle them.

    It seems your mental state is hyperbole and I did not call you in particular a racist, but those nervous about social changes are the racists.
     
  3. edna kawabata

    edna kawabata Well-Known Member

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    Nope, your white forefathers are not off the hook. It could have been made right after emancipation but wasn't. Blacks made up 13% of the population (as they do today) and after emancipation the poverty rate was 100% and for the next 100 years social engineering conspired to keep them down. The majority white populace was complicit.
     
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    modernpaladin Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So you didn't actually mean what you said before.
     
  5. edna kawabata

    edna kawabata Well-Known Member

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    How is "If you are white American heritage your family contributed to Institutional racism unless they were outliers who fought against it." inconsistent with "after emancipation the poverty rate was 100% and for the next 100 years social engineering conspired to keep them down. The majority white populace was complicit"?
     
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    Being nervous about social changes makes you a "racist"?

    That isn't even in the ball park of what the word means.

    There is nothing good about a social change that is likely to reduce due process, which has been a big advancement for our society. For you to claim that this concern makes one a "racist" is ludicris. Are you concerned that some might think that you are just repeating words that you have heard with no understanding of their meaning? Echolalia doesn't fool a single American.

    Feel the peaceful protest hit you in the skull.

    [​IMG]
    Andy Ngô
    @MrAndyNgo

    Overnight on 19–20 Aug, hundreds of [mostly peaceful] #antifa blocked an intersection by a hospital in order to attack @ICEgov Portland facility. Responding officers were hit w/rocks. [Mostly peaceful] Antifa then started fires on the street. They later smashed the windows of ICE building. https://portlandoregon.gov/police/news/read.cfm?id=261115
    Can you spot the civil rights violations by the mostly peaceful Antifa?
    Can you spot the rights violations there?

    Heavy, baseball sized bits of peace being thrown at people’s heads.

    Portland Rioters Set Fire to County Building Full of COVID PPE. Top Cop Begs Them to Stop.

    Can you spot the civil rights violations there?

    Liz Warren’s background endorsement of the mostly peaceful Marxist Black Lives Matter group.
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    See the B L M blocks off her left shoulder.​

    And yes, we are all quite clear on which side is backing these mostly peaceful racist rioters, assaulters and arsonists.

    Promoting ignorance of the American political system to incite mindless outrage.

    Crooked Hillary: "Don't forget, Joe and Kamala can "win" by 3 million votes and still lose. Take it from me.

    She's a liar, she lost 20 states to 30.

    https://pjmedia.com/vodkapundit/202...or-you-plus-billy-joel-as-nostradamus-n811791

    Drunken Hillary still lives in a Chardonnay fog rich and thick enough to make her believe she’s the “real” winner of the 2016 election — the legal result of which she still hasn’t accepted.

    Does She Look Antifa to You?

    Woman, 16-year-old mostly peaceful girl charged in painting swastikas, anti-Semitic images on University Heights businesses

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    Awful:
    Here is the 23-year-old’s Facebook profile
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    We all know which side supports this crap. Not a single American is fooled.
     
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    If Union soldiers who fought in the Civil War werent fighting against slavery, then the Civil War wasn't about slavery.

    Is that your position?
     
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    Of course there is evidence, as noted numerous times by both myself and lots of other on these forums. The organizers of BLM, ANTIFA and frankly AOC have all said, written, been digitally recorded describing themselves as marxists. That isn't an attempt to "scare the old people". It's meant to warn ALL of the people that these groups are what they say they are, regardless of your either unwillingness to accept, or ignorance of it.
     
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    Biden entirely ignored it. One of the news folk said something to the effect of, "we looked, and could find perhaps four words denouncing the violence from Biden, or his campaign." That tells us all we need to know about how the ground game for the DNC folk is going to play out.
     
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    edna kawabata Well-Known Member

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    BLM has weak Marxist roots, here is a more balanced view than the right-wing web. That said, its overarching goals , which the majority of the public agrees with, are to stop police brutality and recognize the worth of black life which is not Marxist and something even you may agree with. It's like saying the Gates Foundation is capitalist because the founder is a capitalist....it doesn't follow. Antifa is a leaderless amalgam of violent anti-racists and anarchists that has little to do with Marxism. AOC is a democratic socialist, values I agree with and not Marxist.

    Bandying about the word "Marxist" to scare the ignorant is a right-wing tactic.
     
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    Gee, so nobody is coordinating them, paying them, arranging for bail, arranging and paying for their legal counsel ?

    YOU WOULD NEED A HEART OF STONE NOT TO LAUGH: Antifa And BLM Are Begging People To Stop Posting Videos Of Riots Because They’re Getting Arrested.
     
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    "Reparations" paid: over 600,000 dead in Civil War.
    "Reparations" due: 0.
     
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    edna kawabata Well-Known Member

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    Is your position that nobody is coordinating them, paying them, arranging for bail, arranging and paying for their legal counsel?
    https://donsurber.blogspot.com/2020/08/the-smug-left.html#more

    I'm for Democrats paying reparations, they are the Party of Slavery, Lynching, KKK, Dred Scott and Jim Crow.
     
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    edna kawabata Well-Known Member

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    The "evidence" is in....nut job conspiracy theory.
     
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    edna kawabata Well-Known Member

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    That position makes no sense...so no. I am talking about post-emancipation.
     
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    Ah. So pre-emancipation oppression doesn't count, since pre-emancipation anti-oppression doesnt count, right?

    ;)
     
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    And you say I toss the race card...
     
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    People who dont support antifa dont pose smiling with their handbook. That's Keith Ellison BTW. Screenshot 2020-08-22 at 7.00.05 PM.png
     
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    edna kawabata Well-Known Member

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    In my opinion African Americans have a good case for reparations since emancipation because of the active suppression of their equal rights and ability to gain wealth.
     
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    edna kawabata Well-Known Member

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    What race has been the dominant social force for the last 100 years?
    [​IMG]A joke that the right doesn't get.
     
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    I'm sure it's just a big coincidence and "joke"....Can you link me to Reagan's son declaring support for antifa or is it to be assumed all liberals support them?
     

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