Reperations for Segregation!!

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by Ronstar, Aug 8, 2020.

  1. Golem

    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    I see much complaining in your post and no solutions. That is what is typically known as "whining"

    And what is this "cultural" problem you speak of that has nothing to do with education?
     
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    Random beatings... including assaults on teachers. Pimping. Drug dealing. Fencing stolen goods. Going to an inner city school is about equivalent to going to prison. It introduces young black kids to gangs and the thug culture and gives them connections to the criminals.

    Here are 74 incidents of student on teacher violence that were captured on film and on youtube.
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    Perhaps you should get out of your lily white suburb and experience a little bit of reality. It is unbelievable that you are completely unaware of what is going on in inner city schools. Perhaps you should visit one (if you have the courage).
     
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    My brother just retired after teaching in an inner city school for 29 years. He regards it as the most rewarding experience of his life and does not share your wife's opinion based on what he saw. Perhaps part of the problem with the school she taught at was the teacher's attitudes, not the student's purported "cultural" deficiencies.

    "A lot of your article was about Chicago housing policy. It was a very technical analysis of housing policy. When people talked to me about the article—and I could tell they hadn’t read it—“So, Ta-Nehisi’s making a case for”—no, no, no, I said. First and foremost, it’s a dissection of a particular policy that’s emblematic of so many other policies.

    Right, right. So, out of all of those policies of theft, I had to pick one. And that was really my goal. And the one I picked was housing, was our housing policy. Again, we have this notion that housing as it exists today sort of sprung up from black people coming north, maybe not finding the jobs that they wanted, and thus forming, you know, some sort of pathological culture, and white people, just being concerned citizens, fled to the suburbs. But beneath that was policy! The reason why black people were confined to those neighborhoods in the first place, and white people had access to neighborhoods further away, was because of political decisions. The government underwrote that, through F.H.A. loans, through the G.I. Bill. And that, in turn, caused the devaluing of black neighborhoods, and an inability to access credit, to even improve neighborhoods."

    https://www.newyorker.com/news/the-...hisi-coates-revisits-the-case-for-reparations
     
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  4. Golem

    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    More whining?

    I ask again: what is the "cultural problem" you mentioned? And what solution are you proposing?

    Obviously you don't know what you're talking about. So I don't expect an answer from you.

    Thanks anyway.
     
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    Ya contagious huh ;)
     
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    The US government did not participate in slavery. Where is your legal and Constitutional basis to impose a punitive tax on citizens for actions the government itself isn't even a part of?
     
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    That would mean taxpayers would be paying for this. What would an immigrant that came here from Brazil 10 years (and just received citizenship) ago have to do with this? Why would they need to spend money on that? Think of all the millions of people you want to drain money from that had nothing to do with segregation from 50 years ago. If you think that will gain your party votes, I say you propose it. Because you will lose a lot of them.
     
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    The military boot camps don't put up with punks and bullies who try to start trouble, disregard the dress code, talk back or break the rules. Schools should do the same. Discipline in the classroom is needed for a learning environment. Maybe a strapping Marine in each class could settle the disruptive students down.
     
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    Expelling disruptive students from public schools is very difficult. It shouldn't be. Maybe they'd be more apt to be less disruptive if the US required 2 years of public service. A requirement that needed to be fulfilled by the age of 25.
     
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    You lefties are working real damn hard to convince me that black folks are unable to succeed unless they are around white people. Maybe you are right, who knows? It is not my problem and it will never will be. As long as I can move away from crime and poverty, I will. Given my resources, that should always be the case.
     
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    Good post!
     
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    Is this just for blacks who were alive during the Jim Crow era or does it count for their children as well? As in like you were born black in the year 2000 well past Jim Crow but your parents or grandparents were alive then so you get these benefits too?

    What about those who don't "need" it? Is there a financial cut off thats going to be put in place that says something like "yeah you're already middle class so you're good"? There are plenty of black folks who are doing just fine for themselves. If you already have a college degree and a career do you get cut a check instead or do you not get anything?

    Are blacks who currently pay taxes exempt from paying taxes while we fund this program? Doesn't really make sense to tax black people's money to give back to black people.
     
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    Bingo. Me too.
     
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    So for now, paying off people to vote and keep them in office only makes Democrats rich! Seems a little unfair to me :shock:
     
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    How about a one way plane ticket to Africa with the condition of never returning to the US as reparations? I bet many folks would be on board for that.
     
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    Thoughts? "Reperations" (sic) or Reparations, it's all concocted, half-witted, hyperliberal BULLSHIT!

    We haven't had slavery in the United States for 157 years! By contrast, we HAVE the total elimination of the old "Jim Crow" laws, and the addition of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and the Voting Rights Act of 1965 FOR OVER 55 YEARS!

    If American negroes can't 'make it' today, the maybe the question that should be asked is, "Why the hell NOT?!" American negroes are the constitutional and legal EQUAL to every other citizen of the United States!

    Afterthought: imagine the howling and screaming from the Left if anyone suggested that we should have "Affirmative Action" for WHITE people to counter the effects of REVERSE DISCRIMINATION, in favor of American negroes, in this country since the early 1970's!
     
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    Lol. what about all those folks Trump pays off to wear red MAGA hats?
    Surely no one would do that for free.
     
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    I'm in favor of all citizens doing 2 years mandatory in the military service of their choice once they reach the age of 18. We could call it "Military Service Equality". That would also take care of "Racial Equality" and "Income Equality", at least for 2 years. Sometimes you gotta git outta the wagon and help push.
     
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    There was a thread a few years back about that...as I recall most were against it. I'm not.
     
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    I'm not in favor of any sort of involuntary draft, which is basically what you are promoting. You could simply make military service a qualification for federal benefits like Student loans, FHA loans, and my personal favorite: voting.
     
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    I bet virtually no black people would be on board with that. Black people are here (the US) to stay.
     
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    You are saying you don't think the people living in the USA under all our freedoms should be partly responsible for protecting those freedoms?
     
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    I think that in a truly free country the people living under all our freedoms should be free to choose whether or not they want to help protect those freedoms...

    We already have a draft and you're already required to sign up for selective service at 18 meaning if we REALLY NEED YOU then we can pull you into service, IE WWIII or something.
     
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    Sure they are but that offer would stop folks from bitchin'.
     

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