Repub voter suppression rears it's ugly head once again.

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  1. Lee Atwater

    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    53K voter registration applications on hold in Georgia: report

    https://thehill.com/homenews/campai...n-applications-on-hold-in-kemps-office-report

    An analysis of the records obtained by The Associated Press reveals racial disparity in the process. Georgia’s population is approximately 32 percent black, according to the U.S. Census, but the list of voter registrations on hold with Kemp’s office is nearly 70 percent black.
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    Kemp is Georgia's Sec. of State, running for governor against a black woman, and is actively using his position to suppress the vote of black citizens.

    This mirrors efforts by Repubs in Texas, Wisconsin, N. Carolina, Florida, Indiana, in all 33 states have enacted voter suppression rules despite the failure of Don's sham voter fraud commission to find any evidence of a systemic problem with voter fraud.

    7 specific ways states made it harder for Americans to vote in 2016

    https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2016/11/7/13545718/voter-suppression-early-voting-2016

    New Voting Restrictions in America

    https://www.brennancenter.org/new-voting-restrictions-america
     
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    The article says their information should match the state's Department of Driver Services or the Social Security Administration. Being able to match the SSA should be easy. If not, it could be an issue with identity theft or someone using their identity to vote.

    This would be a serious problem if the requirements were Department of Driver Services and the Social Security Administration because people move all the time.
     
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    Democrats are famous for cheating at the polls. I would have no problem showing a photo ID upon request. Only AMERICAN CITIZENS can vote. Dems love for illegals, felons, the dead, etc to vote because they tend to vote for them. Think about THAT. Elections should be on the up-and-up. If they check NY and CA to name two, they would find a lot of cheating by Dems going on. But Dems have NO shame...
     
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    It's common for Repubs to have widely held beliefs absent supporting evidence. You just provided an example.
     
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    But through a process that Kemp calls voter roll maintenance and his opponents call voter roll purges, Kemp’s office has cancelled over 1.4 million voter registrations since 2012. Nearly 670,000 registrations were cancelled in 2017 alone.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/nati...e01efba3cc1_story.html?utm_term=.5ac77083fb01

    Any minion see a conflict of interest with the man controlling (and benefiting from) the state's registration process being a candidate for governor?
     
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    “Kemp has been a driving force behind multiple voter suppression efforts throughout the years in Georgia,” said Kristen Clarke, president and executive director of the Lawyers’ Committee for Civil Rights Under Law, one of the groups behind the lawsuit. “If there is one person in Georgia who knows that the ‘Exact Match’ scheme has a discriminatory impact on minority voters, it’s Brian Kemp because we successfully sued him over a mirror policy in 2016.”
     
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    Lee, Lee, Lee, you know the solution is simple. Free voter ID cards, or are you one of those that contend people cannot be responsible enough to bring them to the polls?
     
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    Why ? No credible evidence has ever been been shown of wide spread voter fraud. Besides, voter fraud is already agaisnt the law.
    To use a POV of gun rights people, we should ve able to buy a gun without a background check, why should we need an ID to vote ? To register to vote, sure. It’s already agaisnt the law to knowingly sell guns in private sale to a criminal, its already illegal to commit voter fraud. So, why the ID.
    We only have lying Trump’s word of three million illegals voting. Show the evidence there was.
     
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    Solution to what? We do not have a voter fraud problem in the US. Repub voter suppression is a solution in search of a non-existent problem.
     
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    Trump and the whole GOP in general are waving their tiny junk in the face of America...
     
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    As long as I am here I will take both of you boys/girls/alphabets
    Let's start with the comment there is voter suppression and it is all republicans doing so.
    If every voter needed a photo ID it would eliminate voter suppression. Name address and picture seems pretty logical that person can cast a ballot.

    As for the very ignorant guns comparison, you are tripping over your own dick/front hole, so I will give you the benefit of the doubt and assume that you just have no idea as to the existing Federal firearms laws or the penalties for selling a gun to a known felon in this country, that aside from many states penalties stating if I sell a gun to anyone without a federal background check, I, the seller, may be liable for crimes committed with said firearm for one year from the date of sale. I don't give a red rats ass about any voter fraud. but if it makes you feel better I will put in the terms the alt-leftie anti-gunners so love to repeat, "but if it saves just one fraudulent vote from being cast"

    The photo ID topic has been beaten to death and the none of the lefties can never present a convincing argument as to why it should not be a requirement to vote everywhere, and please don't ask for the ever so long list that requires these same people have to produce a photo ID in everyday life. You know better.
     
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    Free? Heh...you don't really believe these would be "free", do you? I mean...someone has to pay for them, right?
     
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    Well, since most people current have a driver license the cost would be minimized. If it bothers you I would be happy to pay for yours, in fact if I were a democrat I would want every one of my fellow democrats to be clutching one in their hot little hands come Nov.

    I did like your statement question though, as it applies to everything Bernie "freeshit" Sanders stands for doesn't it?
     
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    So you're ok with taxpayer money paying for IDs? Interesting. And here I thought you were someone who was all about personal responsibility rather than relying on govt.
     
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    More lawless liberals trying to curb the law and play the race card. How sad. Every alphabet agency in every state I've ever been in gives warnings/demands that you keep your information current, particularly if you move. This is liberal smoke...
     
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    Both of us should be in favor of this. It is a total no brainer. If you wish, we could turn this over to a private company and have people get reimbursed as a direct tax credit.

    Make you feel better?
     
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    How many dead people and convicted felons are registered to vote in Georgia?
     
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    So you ARE in favor of more govt involvement. Very odd. I prefer to keep govt out of our lives as much as humanly possible.

    I don't believe voter fraud to be the problem you fantasize it to be.
     
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    Damn hard to test for something no one will look for.
     
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    And I think that is a fanciful dodge given survey data shows that as many as 640k people may have voted twice in the last election and that as many as 1 million noncitizens may have voted as well.
     
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    The only way that the GOP can even win elections is by massive vote suppression.

    It is obvious that the GOP is already laying the groundwork to STEAL the election in 2020.
     
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    Is that reliable evidence from an independent body or pulled out of the rear evidence from a pressure group ? I was under the impression that voter fraud had been repeatedly and exhaustively investigated in the US and shown to be negligible.

    https://www.demos.org/sites/default/files/publications/Analysis.pdf
     
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    An ENTIRE 1,640,000? Out of 70,000,000+ votes in the last election? Yeah....that's one hell of a problem we have....smh
     
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    While it's true there is a great false narrative about illegals voting, I don't have a problem with voter ID as a means of maintaining the integrity of the process. The only thing I dislike is for it to be used as a backdoor poll tax. Institute the problem, provide state IDs upon request with proof identity and give it 3-5 years to be implemented.

    OTOH, although voter fraud is rare and has never been shown to sway a state or federal election, the most common means of voter fraud is via the absentee ballot. Usually one relative voting for another. Still rare enough to be unlikely to sway the vote for governor.
     
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    But, voter fraud is illegal already. You’re assuming people come to the polls, vote illegally when federal penalties are up 10,000 dollar fine and five years in jail for federal elections. Then, at their discretion, states can prosecute additionally.

    Obviously the comparison with gun control is valid. You got really defensive and became an internet tough guy. I’m not impressed.

    Just do what the GOP always does. Instead of suppressing the vote.....( see Georgia) just give out mandatory first offense sentences when they are found. You’re assuming everyone is guilty without due process !

    Btw, a private seller is not required to show or record or turn in any thing during a private sale. If confronted by law enforcement , he nearly claims he doesn’t know the man’s ID or residence. The law says ‘ “knowingly”” . It’s easily avoidable. Don’t act ignorant.



    Btw, still no evidence of wide spread voter fraud by anyone but the GOP. Still waiting.
     

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