Republicans Against Trump

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  1. Esperance

    Esperance Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    11 million voters?

    Trump already has enough votes in 28 states to win in November. But I personally think he will win between 31 and 33 states in 2020.
     
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    Esperance Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You can't fumigate the Elite Progressive Cartel. DNC-E and GOP-E will continue to fund RINO candidates who will continue to have open hands and hidden pockets.
     
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    What planet do you live on?

    For that to happen, every polling firm in every battleground state would have to be wrong.

    And I'm sure you believe that.
     
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    Serious damage has been inflicted upon the GOP by Trumpery. It will take some time before conservatives can rebuild it.
     
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    Durandal Well-Known Member Donor

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    What defines a True Republican versus a RINO? Seems to a trumper, a RINO is simply a Republican who doesn't bend the knee to Trump and his vocal minority of low-info, paranoid supporters.
     
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    ...the **** does that mean? No State has started accepting votes for the November election.
     
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    Trump knows that he's on course to be a one-term president. He's under water in every swing state as well as nationally.
     
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    Ummmmmm

    just WHO will vote for him?
     
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    I didn't say that he would easily win; I said that I fully expect him to win what will be a close race. English doesn't get any plainer than that...
     
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    No he's not. Polls are both meaningless and skewed towards Democrats.

    My prediction at this moment in time is that (if cheating is kept to a minimum) Trump will hold onto most (if not all) of his 2016 States, and will likely add both New Hampshire and Maine, and potentially even add Nevada and Minnesota.
     
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    And it is literally impossible to "fully expect" the outcome of a close race.
     
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    Polls are what convinced Trump to start wearing a mask and cancelling the convention in Florida.

    So no, not meaningless.
     
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    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA :roflol::roflol::roflol::roflol:

    No it isn't.
     
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    Polls are absolutely meaningless.
     
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    Let's try a thought experiment.

    If you had to estimate a probability of the chance that Trump wins in Wisconsin, despite the RCP average of polls there being currently Biden +6.4, what probability would you say?
     
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    Trump made significant alterations to his personal behavior and cost GOP donors millions of dollars based on "meaningless" information then.
     
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    Psst, In case you were wondering, what constitutes 'cheating' in all these state and county election results is something both you and gfm7175 will learn together, by watching the post election coverage of Fox news for the following month. We will all learn what cheating entails and where it was located between November 3 and December 3 as the GOP and Trump run into the courtrooms and file their motions.
     
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    I'm not basing my thoughts on meaningless polls though... That's the whole point...

    Biden is not going to win Wisconsin by anywhere near 6.4 points... You can take that to the bank.

    I actually live in and regularly travel around much of South and Central Wisconsin, seeing Trump signs everywhere, seeing plenty of people donning Trump apparel, and talking to plenty of people who support Trump, so I know much better than the meaningless polls do...

    I pretty much only see Biden signs in Dane, Milwaukee, and Columbia Counties (although Columbia has just as many Trump signs as Biden signs, so it's a wash)... I never see anybody wearing Biden apparel, and the people who I talk to who plan on voting "for" Biden are not actually Biden fans, but just hate Trump because of the media lies about Trump and can't form an argument beyond media-circulated buzzwords...

    Don't be surprised if Trump wins WI in November... In fact, I'd be surprised if he lost...
     
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    You didn't give a percentage estimate.
     
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    Like his comments in the science forum this is another example of him claiming to know much better than__________.
     
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    It doesn't matter... all that matters is that Trump has very solid support in much of WI...
     
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    A lot of times I DO know much better than _________.
     
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    Trump "has very solid support in much" of every state.

    But that **** don't mean that he is going to win.
     
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    You may find those few useful. But go to question 66. Trial Heat - Biden V Trump If an election for president were going to be held now and the Democratic nominee was Joe Biden and the Republican nominee was Donald Trump, would you vote for.

    88% of Republicans answered Trump. That is exactly the same percentage Trump received from Republicans in 2016. 88%.

    https://www.cnn.com/election/2016/results/exit-polls

    Back then everyone was talking about how the Never Trumpers would be voting for Hillary. That never happened either. You'll get the normal 5,6 or 7% Republicans voting for the Democratic candidate and vice versa. But neither party loyalist is going to change stripes in a big way. If I were a Democrat and a Biden supporter, I wouldn't be worried about how many Republican voters vote for Joe. I'd be more worried about how to attract the independent voter who makes up 40% of the electorate. Hillary lost independents 46-42 to Trump with 12% voting third party in 2016. Independents, the non-affiliated to less to non-partisan voters put Trump into the White House. They can kick him out this year or they can extend his stay another four years.

    Neither the Democrats nor the Republicans have the numbers to determine whether Trump stays or goes. Independents do and will. They decide one way or the other. Today independents are leaning toward Trump 38-37% with 10% stating they'll vote third party presumably against both major party candidates as 12% of them did back in 2016. Then you have the not sure and or undecided.

    Maybe my math isn't so good. With independents making up 40% of the electorate, it seems to me those are folks one should be going after, trying to attract rather than a handful of Republicans. Oh, and who do you think those handful, those high profile Never Trumpers voted for, it wasn't Hillary. It was third party candidates.
     
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    I wonder if it is possible that there are fewer Republicans than in 2016 though? Is it possible that Trump maintains his 88% support amongst Republicans because the Republicans who continue to self-identify as a Republican are wholly linked to Trump.
     
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