Republicans are rediscovering a way to win elections!

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Before the 2020 election, Pennsylvania Republicans were publicly lauding themselves as proponents of voting by mail after they passed a vote-by-mail bill to “serves to preserve the integrity of every election and lift the voice of every voter in the commonwealth,” said GOP House majority leader Bryan Cutler. Eight of the bill’s nine sponsors were Republicans.​

MAIL-IN VOTING!
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For the past two years, Republican officials... have blasted mail voting, firing off lawsuits and bills aimed at crippling the balloting method that has become increasingly popular...​

In the wake of a midterm cycle that proved disastrous for them, they’re wondering if their antipathy to the idea cost them the election.

“There’s no question in my mind that Republicans have to have a different mail-in strategy,” said Andy Reilly, a Republican National Committeeman in Pennsylvania. “When one party votes for 30 days and one party votes for one, you’re definitely going to lose.”
[https://www.politico.com/news/2022/12/02/pennsylvania-republican-mail-voting-00071713]​

Nearly every Republican state legislator had backed Act 77 of 2019, legalizing no-excuse mail voting, but flip-flopped like beached blowfish and mindless ly parroted the shrill whining of Cry Baby Trump when the Loser needed to contrive a pretext for his losing.

Kowtowing to the Loser resulted in the Pennsylvania Blue Wave of 2022 in which Republicans lost key races for governor, Senate, House and the state legislature, courtesy of loser paranoia regarding mail-in voting.

Pennsylvania Republicans learned the hard way that it's better to

DUMP THE TRUMP!
EMPOWER THE PEOPLE! ​

Across the country, the GOP’s disappointing midterm results have kicked off hand-wringing about the party’s attitude toward early voting and mail ballots.

 

Just to recall how bloody marvelous Republicans thought vote-by-mail was before a Loser blamed it for his losing:

In Iowa, the Republican Party mailed absentee ballot applications to voters without waiting for requests. In Pennsylvania, the GOP’s website promotes voting by mail: “Vote Safe: By mail. From home.” And in Ohio, the Republican Party sent mailers with Trump’s photo saying “Join President Trump and Vote by Absentee Ballot.” August 19, 2020
[Republicans quietly push mail-in voting despite Trump claims]

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2020, when there was an upsurge in the popularity of mail-in voting, was "the most secure in the nation’s history" according to Trump's Republican Director of the Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency.

Republicans also pioneered Arizona’s mail-in balloting system, which now accounts for about 80% of the state’s vote. Chuck Coughlin, a longtime GOP operative, said,

"It’s been remarkably successful. There’s been minimal to no fraud for a long period of time."

This State's GOP Leadership Thinks Mail-In Voting Is In It's Future
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In the area I live which I prefer to keep hidden, the RNC was telling conservatives to not vote by mail. Not sure it would have mattered anyway being that I live in a largely liberal area, although in the farmlands I live in leans conservative. Yet after the election I heard some conservatives questioning the strategy and contemplating if they would have done better if more conservatives voted earlier by mail? I don’t know the answer to that but the question is interesting.

 

It won't help them though. These last few years have convinced most people of what's been obvious to most of us for some time. Republicans are like the old nobility/royalty; a small special interest group that almost none of us are in but that rules us whether we wish them to or not.

 

One Loser made safe and secure voting by mail anathema for the quislings in the GOP when he needed to contrive pretexts for losing. (He routinely votes by mail.)

Kowtowing to his paranoidal hysteria cost the Party, and they've finally grown the spheroidal accoutrements to free themselves from his thoroughly stupid injunction.

Republicans have a post-election epiphany on mail voting


"Bye-bye."​

 

The answer is obvious.
They should have followed their leader.

Trump, While Attacking Mail Voting, Casts Mail Ballot Againhttps://www.npr.org › 2020/08/19 › trump-while-attackin...
Aug 19, 2020 — He voted by mail in Tuesday's Florida primaries but avoided the Postal Service, instead opting to give his ballot to a third party to turn ...

 

Do you not understand the difference between requested ballots and ballots that are mailed wholesale without a request?

 

If one side is doing something, the other side has to do it too to be able to compete.

That should be just common sense, but there are a lot of stupid people who think that represents hypocrisy.

 

Trump's lickspittles swallowed the Loser's fake excise for his losing. That has hurt the Republican Party.

Republicans run from Trump’s resistance to early voting
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At virtually all levels of the conservative ecosystem — from the activist and operative class, the upper echelons of the Republican Party and the prime time lineup on Fox News — leaders have seen the light on mail-in and early voting after a disappointing 2022 election cycle.

Fox News host Sean Hannity said Republicans “have been unwilling for whatever reason” to vote early and by mail. Fox News host Laura Ingraham said, “Everyone said: Don’t vote early, it’s corrupt,” adding, “a lot of people did, at the very top of the Republican Party.”

Speaking with Fox News this week, RNC Chair Ronna McDaniel, handpicked for the post by Trump, said “our voters need to vote early.

“I have said this over and over again,” she continued. “There were many in 2020 saying, ‘Don’t vote by mail, don’t vote early.’ And we have to stop that.”​

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The republicans were slow to understand that today’s elections are “ballots out vs ballots in”. How they they get into vote totals in irrelevant.
They will fix that, and then democrats will scream for change.
For citizens, the best change would be to make party affiliations secret. No more printouts of voters addresses. With data harvesting my party affiliation is as secret as this post of mine is.

 

So you don't understand the difference. What is it about the left that it has no interest in election security?

 

Losers pretending that elections are insecure does not make them insecure. Republican secretaries-of-state who certify election results know that.

Republicans run from Trump’s resistance to early voting​

 

I would say he may have learned that from Hillary Clinton, the master of excuses.

 

Strange isn't how NO election that Republicans WON was EVER insecure while nearly ALL Dem victories were seen as such.

 

Your reverting to history in a feeble "Oh, yeah! Well, what about...?" diversion merely emphasizes the contrast - an immediate, gracious concession, no inciting goons to attack Congress, and no attempted fake elector scams. But that is typical of peaceful transfers of power that had distinguished our democracy from 1789 until 2021.

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It is astounding how laser-focused the stealthy, still unidentified members of the vast, nationwide conspiracists were in 2020, electing more Republicans to Congress whilst stealing a "Landslide!" from a purported Republican!

 

There is some that think what Trump's team put together had some legitimate Constitutional basis for it.

https://www.aei.org/politics-and-pu...slatures-directly-appoint-their-own-electors/

So while the plan failed it wasn't without a legitimate Constitutional consideration.

 

One rightist organization's rationalizing is not exculpatory. Litigation is ongoing.

In several battleground states where Joe Biden had defeated Trump, representatives of the losing side decided that they, too, would gather as purported electors to sign certificates falsely attesting to a Trump win and submit them for approval by Congress.

Months later, American Oversight, a watchdog group that seeks to hold Trump accountable through public records requests, published the phony certificates calling them "part of the failed attempt to overturn the results of the 2020 election."

This was no small caper by a few disappointed Trump loyalists.

The fake electoral certificates were signed by Republican state lawmakers and party officials in Georgia, Arizona, Michigan, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Nevada and New Mexico, states accounting for a combined 84 electoral votes. And like the violent insurrectionists who came to the Capitol on Jan. 6 with knives, bats and other weapons, the fake electors sought to overturn a democratic election through extralegal means. They did so in a coordinated effort, mostly out in the open, and through official channels.

[https://www.politifact.com/article/2022/jan/28/what-you-need-know-about-fake-trump-electors/]

Trump’s fake electors

After the 2020 election, certificates purporting to be from Trump electors were sent to the National Archives in Washington, D.C., by Republicans in seven battleground states that Joe Biden won — Arizona, Georgia, Michigan, Nevada, New Mexico, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin. That effort, which was ultimately unsuccessful, created two sets of electors: an official group selected by the states and the fake ones.

During a public hearing last month, the House Jan. 6 committee presented documents and testimony that appeared to show Trump’s team had plotted to overturn the 2020 election by organizing the slates of alternate “fake electors” in those seven states.

The fake electors submitted false certifications of Trump victories to the National Archives hoping that then-Vice President Mike Pence would swap them for the legitimate electoral votes that solidified Joe Biden’s victory, the panel alleged...

[https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/po...ectors-hit-subpoenas-criminal-probe-rcna38984]
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I'm sure you can find several articles supporting your claim that Trump concocted a "scheme" to send "fake" electors to Congress. I only need to show one where a legal argument could be made that the "plan" was to send "alternative" electors to Congress. Mine is looking at it through the lens of legal argument. Yours is looking at it through the lens of Trump hatred.

 

Trump's fake elector scam will be adjudicated in Georgia.

You can contrive some paranoid fantasy that the Georgia judiciary is driven by hatred and not respect for the law if you need to.

 

You can actually discuss what I cited and show what's inaccurate about it or ignore it. Makes no difference to me.

 

Rather than indulging in speculation, I am amenable to allowing the law to take its course and Trump's fake elector scheme to be adjudicated.

 

In other words you're not comfortable expressing your opinion on the Constitutional points I raised. I don't blame you.

 

This is the pertinent excerpt from my request to California Secretary of State:

I don’t expect an answer, but we deserve one.

 

I would care if I thought it would reform election security. But it won't. My position is that elections are pretty meaningless. We vote, the government changes the names on the doors and life goes on without fixing anything.