Republicans: Do you now believe the Mueller Report should be accepted by all?

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  1. Golem

    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    Good for you. Now, let's see how long we can keep that in mind.
     
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    Well, I haven’t read it yet. My dad was from Missouri. The show me state.
     
  3. Golem

    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    I'm with you. That's why I'm wondering why wingnut media and some Trump followers are in some sort of "celebration mode" today. At least in the morning. Seems to have subsided a bit, for some reason, in the afternoon.

    Myself, I think Mueller is an honest and thorough investigator. I will accept his findings no matter what. Not sure I'll agree with his actions (we don't know what those will be). But I have no reason to believe that he hasn't done a good job. I have said before that collusion would only lead to impeachment, and impeachment would be impossible to pass. So it makes no difference. But criminal activity unrelated to collusion.... that's what I call "the fun part".
     
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    Capt Nice Well-Known Member

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    WOW, if you believe the dems are the tools of Vladimir Putin you should take the time to find out what's been going on.
     
  5. Smartmouthwoman

    Smartmouthwoman Bless your heart Past Donor

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    Indicted for lying to witch hunt investigators. Not exactly Americas Most Wanted material.

    Did you know Barack Obama announced his entry into politics from William Ayers living room? Might be something to that crook thing you mentioned... but of course, only among Repubs, right?
     
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    Injeun Well-Known Member

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    Actually, it was a bi partisan effort to appoint a special prosecutor to clear up the matter. And you should be relieved to finally discover that there was no conspiracy to effect our elections. Our elections and our country are safe in this regard. Doesn't this make you happy? It should.
     
  7. Sandy Shanks

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    Mueller's findings, yes. Barr's, I don't know about.

    The just-completed Mueller Report recommends no new indictments. Under the circumstances that seems rather strange, and Donald Trump, Jr. and Jared Kushner must be relieved. The following emails were exchanged in June 2016.

    Jun 3, 2016, at 10:36 AM, Rob Goldstone wrote:

    Good morning, Emin just called and asked me to contact you with something very interesting.

    The Crown prosecutor of Russia met with his father Aras this morning and in their meeting offered to provide the Trump campaign with some official documents and information that would incriminate Hillary and her dealings with Russia and would be very useful to your father.

    This is obviously very high level and sensitive information but is part of Russia and its government's support for Mr. Trump - helped along by Aras and Emin.

    What do you think is the best way to handle this information and would you be able to speak to Emin about it directly?

    Best
    Rob Goldstone

    Jun 3, 2016, at 10:53, Donald Trump Jr. wrote:

    Thanks Rob I appreciate that. I am on the road at the moment but perhaps I just speak to Emin first. Seems we have some time and if it's what you say I love it especially later in the summer. Could we do a call first thing next week when I am back?

    Best,
    Don

    Several email exchanges took place, then this one.

    From: Rob Goldstone
    Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2016 11:18 AM
    To: Donald Trump Jr.
    Subject: Re: Russia - Clinton - private and confidential


    They can't do today as she [Russian lawyer Natalia Veselnitskaya] hasn't landed yet from Moscow 4pm is great tomorrow.

    Best,
    Rob

    From: Donald Trump Jr.
    Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2016 12:03 PM
    To: Jared Kushner; Paul Manafort
    Subject: FW: Russia - Clinton - private and confidential


    Meeting got moved to 4 tomorrow at my offices.

    Best,
    Don

    https://www.cnn.com/interactive/2017/07/politics/donald-trump-jr-full-emails/

    On June 9, 2016, Donald Trump, Jr., Jared Kushner, and Trump's campaign manager, Paul Manafort, met with four Russian operatives representing the Russian government at Trump's home, Trump Tower, to obtain damaging information on the Clinton campaign.

    This is a clear example of collaboration between the Trump campaign and the Russian government.
     
  8. Sandy Shanks

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    Where did you get that? Cite your source.

    Or, did you just make that up? No one knows what is in the Mueller report yet except for Barr and Rosenstein, and they are not telling, yet.
     
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    So you’re under the impression that you know more than Robert Muller? I find that kinda odd.

    Next, not one single American has been charged with Collusion with Russia. That should tell you something, if you allow yourself to take off your blinders.
     
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    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Massah Golem.....
    It took me a long time to research the validity of my arguments, and I suggest you do the same. Please refrain from responding if the only argument you can come up with is a Conspiracy Theory.

    Thank you.

    It, however is not a conspiracy theory that Eric Holder described himself as Obama's "Wingman" while Jeff Sessions recused himself from any involvement in Trumps defense. It is not a conspiracy theory that James Comey called off any investigation into HRC's e-mails and re-worded the report that described her actions to get her off the hook. It is not a conspiracy theory also that Bill Clinton met secretly with Lorretta Lynch on the tarmac in Phoenix when that investigation into Hillary's destroying of evidence was a consideration. It was not a conspiracy theory, the political bias's of Strok and Page and their "insurance policy" should Trump be elected. It was not a conspiracy theory that the Trump Dosier obtained from a Russian spy had no credibility even with it's the one who produced it, and was submitted as evidence to obtain a FISA Warrant. It is not a conspiracy theory that CNN was tipped off hours before an FBI military force raided a compliant Roger Stone and used strong arm tactics. The DEEP STATE is not a conspiracy theory.
     
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    On June 9, 2016, Donald Trump, Jr., Jared Kushner, and Trump's campaign manager, Paul Manafort, met with four Russian operatives representing the Russian government at Trump's home, Trump Tower, to obtain damaging information on the Clinton campaign.

    This is a clear example of collaboration between the Trump campaign and the Russian government.
     
  12. Golem

    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    Wait. You're on a different plane of existence. The question is not if there was a conspiracy to attack our elections. Of course there was! But that's not the question. The question is if you believe the Mueller report. Yes or no will do.
     
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    President Trump has gone to extraordinary lengths to conceal details of his conversations with Russian President Vladimir Putin, including on at least one occasion taking possession of the notes of his own interpreter and instructing the linguist not to discuss what had transpired with other administration officials.

    At Helsinki, Trump spent two hours alone with Putin, only translators were allowed. Many suspect Trump is being extorted by Putin, which would explain a lot. Only Putin knows what was said during those two hours. What is Trump hiding?
     
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    Not one American has been indicted on collusion with Russia, there will be no further indictments according to the DOJ.

    What about this, are you having such a hard time understanding?
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    Who is Obama? Who are all these people? If they are mentioned on Mueller's report, will you believe what it says about them?
     
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    Brother Golem....let me help you. The Mueller report was given legs by the DEEP STATE. Collusion had been ruled out but it was a convenient ploy of the left in their attempt to overturn an election from the very beginning. The left was so set on seeing HRC sound the bell of death to America.....the Trump victory caught them off guard, set them into a frenzy known as Trump Derangement Syndrom.If you don't remember Barrack Hussein Obama, you don't remember much American History either. Don't take any of this personal. We just have different views. I'd probably have a beer with you sometime.
     
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    Which is it Sandy....extortion or collusion??? (or anything you could imagine) Were you in any ways suspicious when Obama said on a hot mike "Tell Putin I'll have more leeway after the election"? Try not to be so sensitive. I know yo are part of the resistance but it will be a sound defeat. Don't take it hard when it comes.
     
  18. Golem

    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    Oh. Thank you. Finally you're going to tell us if you accept the Mueller Report.!

    Go!

    BTW, not interested in your wild Conspiracy Theory about this crazy Deep State that went to all these lengths to exonerate Trump from collusion with Russia. Read my sig!
     
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    What's the problem. You've spent the last two years convicting Trump with far less evidence of guilt than that exonerating him now.
     
  20. Sandy Shanks

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    Think about it. I am sure you will come up with an answer to your question all by yourself.

    In the meantime, you are ignoring the important developments and concentrating on trivia.

    That's right, you support Trump. I understand.
     
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    I knew it. You made it up.
     
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    Well first, I am a lifelong dem who only crossed over for Ed Brooke and William Weld in almost 50 years of voting.
    Mueller being honest is nothing to do with the investigation was warranted or should have been concluded earlier.
    No one is going to convince me that the last 6 months he did not realize that the investigation was going anywhere.
    The problem I had with the investigation was not in him, but in that it was pretty much what Trump called it - a witch hunt. Designed to cause embarrassment to the president. I am pleased that he found that the president of the US was not colluding with a foreign power in order to win an election. How any american would be happy in any other scenario where he or any president was actually guilty of such is abhorrent.
     
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    What do any of those offenses have to do with the 2016 election?
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    So, just to be clear, you do accept Mueller's findings as written on his report, right?
     
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    Yes, as a prosecutorial document. And no, there are no findings or indictments that any American conspired with Russia to affect our election.
     

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