Republicans surrender to 'ObamaCare'

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  1. Chuck711

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    Blame Trump and Republicans for not making Healthcare Insurance better for all as promised........ They had a chance and blew it.

    There focus was on destroying the ACA to Fund the Wealth Shift Legislation for their Rich Donors
     
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    When given the chance Republicans blew it ............ Thank You McCain for saving millions of Lives
     
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    Shifting the cost to the States which have Financial Problems are a " kick the Can down the Road Solution "

    We have the Largest Military Infrastructure by many times over ............. however we don't take care of basic needs .......

    To use Trumps Big Boy words ................ " Sad "
     
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    If you weren't so wee-wee'd up yourself you'd recognize that what Republicans got was control of the House in 2010, the Senate in 2014 and finally the White House in 2016. Of course, the pledge on the part of the arrogant and corrupt Democrat who embodied everything that was wrong with Washington to continue Obama's failed economic policies sealed her doom.

    RINOs happened.

    It's little wonder that a Leftist such as yourself thinks the GOP should run on what Democrats are running on - more government control over our health care - but running on continuing the economic success America has seen since 2016 is more in line with the priorities of Republicans and conservatives.
     
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    You're right, the issue isn't medical care - it was never about that. It's about power and control and the individual mandate was an extension of that.

    Too bad the mandate was repealed and unscrupulous people are no longer able to prostitute their freedom for a handout and rob the young and healthy of their income to line their own greedy pockets. If they want to live in a socialist or communist dictatorship they should pack their bags and move - America isn't the country for them.
     
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    Your hyper-partisan contortions must be excruciatingly painful.

    The simple reality is that, despite Congressional Republicans raging against the Affordable Care Act since its inception, and their resolve to "immediately" repeal it aligning with Lyin' Don's vow to replace it with "something terrific!" that covers "everybody!" at "less cost!", by the time they failed to pass the miserable confection they contrived failed, and Americans were horrified by the GOP alternative, most had come to approve of the ACA: https://www.pollingreport.com/health.htm

    Let us give credit where due: Making the ACA popular was a feat achieved by Republicans, not Democrats.

    In the current election, it is the top priority issue in which Democrats clearly have the upper hand.

     
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    Having the strongest military on Earth ensures we have basic needs to take care of.
     
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    I'm quite comfortable correcting your own hyper-partisan contortions with the facts, Leatherstocking. Either you're in denial or one of the few individuals in this country who isn't aware of the fact that the so-called "show" votes Republicans held against FullRetardCare were used to get Democrats on record and out of office and the strategy worked as intended. By 2016 it helped Republicans gain control of the House, Senate and White House. None of this was a secret.

    Leftists may have been horrified by the GOP alternative but they don't speak for Americans.

    I would agree that Republicans made FullRetardCare more popular by abolishing the individual mandate. Removing the most abominable aspect of any legislation is bound to make it more palatable.

    As for top priorities, the NPCs in the Cult of Fiasco have dutifully made HC their number one priority along with their pathological hatred for President Trump, and obviously that GroupThink is going to skew the polls. However, outside the collectivist hive free-thinking Americans have numerous other priorities such as expanding on the success of the GOP's pro-growth economic agenda.
     
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    It's amusing to see lip service Republican politicians looking at the polls and wimping out after their close-call failure to savage Americans' health care coverage.

    The same jamokes are now vowing to protect the features of the loathed ACA they tried to kill - no pre-existing exclusions, dependents under family plans covered until age 25, etc.

    I was never a big fan of the ACA, but Lyin' Don in collusion with his GOP congress have actually made it popular with most Americans!
     
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    So what is the Democrat plan to fix their screwed up healthcare system?
     
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    To support Trump in fulfilling his promise of "something terrific!" that covers "everybody!" at "less cost!"
     
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    So they ran on healthcare and they have nothing to offer to fix their plan.
     
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    Americans voted to insure the ACA's continuing to protect them from pre-existing exclusions, insuring that family coverage continues to cover dependents to age 25, etc., but I've yet to see Democrats unite behind any plan to address the rising, already exorbitant cost, of America's healthcare system.

    That is why they must align with Trump in his vow to pass "something terrific!" that covers "everybody!" at "less cost!"
     
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    Why worry, caring dems got the house now , you can keep your doctor.... im sure they will set everyone up.
     
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    So they have no plan to fix their problem.
     
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    I fully support The Democratically-controlled House working with Trump to fulfill his promised "something terrific!" that covers "everybody!" at "less cost!"
     
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    Beyond protecting the popular provisions of the ACA, I am unaware of their healthcare agenda, but support their working with Trump to achieve his plan for "something terrific!" that covers "everybody!" at "less cost!"
     
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    So we are just stuck with their failed plan.
     
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    If you think that Lyin' Don was lying when he vowed to give the nation a healthcare plan that is "something terrific!" that covers "everybody!" at "less cost!", but I would hope Democrats offer their cooperation in helping him achieve it - something the defunct GOP-controlled House failed to do
     
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    Well it wasn't for lack of effort and he has gotten some fundimental changes.

    But this is about NOW and the Democrats running on fixing their Obamacare and WINNING. And now we find they have no plan? Have they even said what needs to be fixed?
     
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    They ran on keeping the ACA in place. Which is what the voters wanted.
     
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    So they ran on the Republicans failure to fix what doesn't need to be fixed and they don't propose to do anything.
     
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    I urge the Democratic House majority, after nearly two years of Republican failure to fulfill their eight-year vow, to cooperate fully with Trump in passing his "something terrific!" plan that covers "everybody!" at "less cost!"

    The ACA extended coverage to 20 million Americans, prohibited the health insurance cartel from refusing coverage because of pre-existing conditions, extended family coverage for dependents to age 25 (unless eligible for other coverage) and has a number of other popular features, but the US still falls far short of advanced nations in health care, and it remains the priority of Americans:

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    So are you saying it is just fine and nothing needs to be done about healthcare? Then why did the Democrats run on healthcare and why did it tip the list?
     
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    They ran on preserving the pre-existing condition protections that the GOP has spent eight years attempting to repeal.

    As for what new policies they'll put forth, probably similar ones to those they've introduced this session: reinsurance in the exchanges, drug pricing, public options or Medicare buy-ins, etc.

    They ran on it because the GOP spent a year going after pre-existing condition protections, pushing bills that had public approval in the mid teens. The GOP was a threat to the health care of millions and that makes for a very relevant campaign issue.
     

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