Residents and Doctors from Douma say chemical attack was staged

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  1. Mackithius

    Mackithius Well-Known Member

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    Morons will be morons. ANYONE who believes these chemical attacks are real are complete idiots. Seriously.... as dumb as they come. And there's a LOT of them. Lemmings running off the cliff because they're told to do so.

    Good article. A LOT of people in the US are skeptics. I don't believe the official narrative because it doesn't fit history and doesn't logistically make ANY sense when you think about it.

    Bravo
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    In addition to the reports from Journalists on the ground in Douma - reporting on what the people and doctors have to say - where is the "Motive"

    The Rebel opposition is decimated. Assad has won. This place was one of the last strongholds. 13,000 of Jaish Al Islam (extremist nut jobs) have given up and left the city.

    What is impact is a small scale Chlorine attack (supposedly killing dozens - oh boy ) going to have on a Islamist Extremist force of 13,000 strong - all willing to martyr themselves for the cause ? ZERO.

    What then is the point ? When a nation state launches a chemical attack .. such as when Saddam gassed the Kurds - many thousands are killed.
    Now that would at least have an impact.

    Assad is winning .. why on earth would he do a tiny chemical attack - an attack which will do nothing to the enemy - but will bring the condemnation of the world down on him.

    Even if Assad was some insane madman acting in the most crazy of ways - which is patent nonsense - Russia is involved. Are we going to suggest that the Russian army is a bunch of crazed lunatics as well ?

    To the contrary ... Russia has been playing a brilliant chess game. They have solidified their influence in the ME... not only in relation to Syria and Iran .. but they have forged ties with Turkey, Iraq and to some degree with Saudi Arabia.

    We created this mess in Syria by arming Terrorists - Al Qaeda and ISIS - to fight a proxy war. Now our actions are coming back to bite us and so all we can resort to is false flags and demonization.
     
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    Yes yes yes. I have made that point many of times before.

    There's literally ZERO BENEFIT to Assad attacking that area with chemical weapons. Why then do they say? Because he's a mad man they say. The total lack of these attacks prior to us paying attention to him makes absolutely no sense and reeks of lies.

    The absolute craziest part of this situation is the warmongers on our side. They are willing to risk conflict with russia over this whole thing. That to me is insane, but it's very very clear there is an agenda there.
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Our foreign policy is conducted on the basis of economic interest (not on the basis of some moral platitude - democracy freedom and so on).
    To a small degree the ave citizen benefits slightly from this but, in general the major benefit is to the international financiers - same folks that own the banks, defense contractors, MSM, Healthcare and Insurance Oligopolies, Energy and everything else that is not nailed down.

    The Establishment is then the Political and Bureaucratic Elite with the money at the top. I mean seriously ... if you want to talk "election meddling" look no further than the big money that gets people elected, lobbyists, and the MSM.


    https://alethonews.wordpress.com/2018/04/23/msnbc-where-journalism-goes-to-die/

    So how does this work ? Its the Board of Directors that chooses the CEO and dictates content. The BOD is a function of the major shareholders- international financiers.

    How is then this not election meddling ? When the MSM does nothing but promote Establishment narrative (false or otherwise) how is this fair and free media ?

    Since the raging masses are far to ignorant in general to understand this process - how can we claim to have a functional democratic process and not a propaganda state.

    At the end of the day the US military is a puppet of the Establishment international financiers. The Agenda of these Oligarchs has little to do with benefiting US citizens.
     
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    It's a breath of fresh air to read such a thing. Very clearly our interests in the ME have been economic, not moral.

    I agree completely. It doesn't benefit people, the average person, just the financial people. I've harped about this constantly and am glad you see the same.

    I don't care so much that we do what we do over there. I'm a man and can handle cold hard truth. Just call it what it is. But the establishment paints these pictures like we're some great good in the world and we need to take out these regimes for the good of their people. This pisses me the f**k off.

    What we do is horrible for the people over there. Directly or indirectly, many crimes against humanity have been caused by the hands of the US. Rape, murder of children, hundreds of thousands of lives lost. This of course overshadowed by one chemical bomb that kills 30 people (that lacks evidence).

    It's disgusting and it's a clear example of how easy it is to control the masses.
     
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    History is not going to look fondly on this episode in our history. Arming and supporting the Islamist Jihadists to fight a proxy war in Syria led to the death of roughly 500,000 and counting - destruction of a nation that is one of the cradles of history and civilization - I was sickened when the Islamist nut jobs went into Nineveh and destroyed ancient monuments and statures.

    This action led to the refugee crisis and the rise of the modern incarnation of ISIS.

    What was very disturbing was the massive media cover up. In the early years of the war the NYTimes, our own DIA, the people of Syria, Christians, and every other reputable ME journalist on the planet was reporting "there was no moderates of any not in the rebel opposition".

    Even VP- Joe Biden !!

    https://mideastshuffle.com/2014/10/04/biden-turks-saudis-uae-funded-and-armed-al-nusra-and-al-qaeda/

    Now Biden leaves out the fact that the CIA was facilitating arms transfers but .. even if this were not the case - Saud is responsible to the US for the end use of the weapons we sell them.

    What happened is that when the dog (ISIS) went off its leash in 2014 (2 years after the war started) and went into Iraq - this created a serious dilemma as we were fighting ISIS in Iraq but allied with them in Syria.

    This quandary was detailed by Rand Paul on the CNN Sunday morning program "State of the Union"


    http://cnnpressroom.blogs.cnn.com/2...-my-son-into-that-mess-on-the-crisis-in-iraq/

    Enter the " Moderate Rebel Lie". This was a complete falsehood trumpeted by Obama (contradicted by his own VP ?!, the DIA and a gazillion other sources).

    The MSM response ? Silence .. complete and utter silence. The NYT promptly forgot its previous reporting. Here we have a congressman (Paul) saying on Network News that we are arming Al Qaeda and ISIS.

    Every Newspaper and network should have had as front page news " Obama accused of arming the 911 terrorists" and then gone on to investigate if this was true. The fact of the matter is that they all know its true. Media response ? Silence.

    In 2013 Obama repealed the 911 bill prohibiting US tax dollars going to terrorist organizations. Tulsi Gabbard - with 9 other bipartisan signatories - reintroduced a similar bill - aptly named the "Stop arming Terrorists act". In congress she details how we have been arming terrorist groups in Syria.

    Media response ? - near silence.

    There is a reason why we do not hear much about the war in Yemen -and when it is discussed it is "Iran is supporting terrorists". Whether or not one likes the Houthis - the fact of the matter is that we are again - on the same side as Al Qaeda in that battle.

    One can hate on Assad. The fact of the matter is that Syria was a secular Muslim Nation. The people of Syria do not want strict Sharia Theocracy which is what the rebel opposition wants. The reason the people of Syria (including the 50% of Assad's regular army who are Sunni) fight for Assad is because they want to keep their individual rights and freedoms.

    The Islamist opposition hates individual liberty. They want to force their extremist religious beliefs on others though physical violence (Law) and this was the call to Holy Jihad.

    I do not give a hoot about Assad but I do care about the people of Syria fighting for their freedom against these sick Islamist extremist pieces of human garbage. .. the people we are arming and supporting.

    What is more disconcerting is the fact that are MSM is a propaganda arm of the Establishment. We now live in an Orwellian Propaganda/Surveillance state. Quazi Totalitarian Police State - if history is of any value - is what follows.
     
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