Results EU Parliament elections for countries

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  1. Mandelus

    Mandelus Well-Known Member

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    I name no English source, because here you can choose Google and you get a lot of results.

    I chose the German one of the "Welt" Newspaper / Media
    https://www.welt.de/politik/ausland...ller-EU-Laender-die-Sieger-im-Ueberblick.html

    The EU elections for the EU Parliament are now over in complete EU ... still with the UK out of well-known reasons ... even some countries will deliver the final result only this evening or even tomorrow.

    In general ... and this is undisputed by all political views and wings ... EU parliament elections are always in every country a somehow a settlement with the government and a form of protest against. This should be taken in mind always ...

    Let me sho you the results for the EU major countries with remarks to it (in brackets the +/- in percent in comparison to last elections 2014)

    1. Germany
    CDU / CSU: 28.9% of votes (minus 6.4%)
    SPD: 15.8% (minus 11.5%)
    The Greens: 20.5% (plus 9.8%)
    AfD: 11% (plus 3.9%)
    FDP: 5.4% (plus 2.0%)
    The Left: 5.5% (minus 1.9%)

    CDU / CSU and SPD form a government coalition and have, as you can see, lost vigorously. Especially gild that for the Social Democrats of the SPD, which was once a large People's Party, in the 1970's and after the era Kohl and before Merkel put the Chancellor, and sinks now more and more in the third-rate.
    The party has simply lost credibility in the German population and it is even now their core competencies where people deny that they are good for ... so social justice, workers rights and the like. In short, Germans are asking more and more why the party still exists and what is the difference to others.
    The far left party of the "Greens" is the true winner in terms of the increase in votes. Meanwhile, this party, which emerged from the peace movement, environmental protection and the anti-nuclear movement, is something like the new SPD of yore.
    The extremely right winger of the AfD have also won votes, but are disappointed, according to their chairman, that they have hoped exactly the growth that the "greens" had. As a reason he called the scandal in Austria ... which is quite lame as reasoning according to general opinion.
    The "Greens" have not only "stolen" votes from the CDU, CSU and SPD, but above all convinced over 2.8 million non-voters to vote this time ... and then even vote for them. As the archenemy of the AfD they have clearly beaten these extreme right wingers!

    2. Great Britain (UK)
    Brexit party (Farage): 31.7% (plus 31.7%)
    Liberal Democrats: 18.5% (plus (plus 11.63%)
    Labour: 14.1% (minus 11.3%)
    Greens: 11.1% (plus 3.2%)
    Conservative “Torries”: 8.7% (minus 15.2%)
    UKIP: 3.6% (minus 23.9%)

    The UK at all still participated in the EU parliamentary elections has its well-known reason. Of course, the drastic losses of the Torries of Theresa May and of Corbyn's Labor are of course a big issue, but who is surprised the punishment of the two after the total chaos in parliament whether Brexit with or without a deal. Only that the torrents get such a slap is amazing.
    Much more amazing is that the former Brexit pioneer - the UKIP - has sunk so low and had to give up so many votes to Farage's new party. This in turn shows, however, that Farage has not really gotten much new votes, but almost only takes over the Brexit from the UKIP. The established parties have certainly lost to Farage, but also to the EU's supporters of the Liberals.

    Further countries will follow...
     
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    Across Europe I think the pro Europe parties had a very strong showing. Naturally for the formerly big Parties a solid whooping
    The right wing populists are stagnating ore loosing.
    The participation rate was very good, too, which speaks for the EU.

    Will be interesting how all that pans out in the parliament, who works with whom.
     
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    I still don't see the point in an EU Parliament.
     
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    I do not see the point of a UK parliament.
     
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    errrmmm....then perhaps you should consider posting on another less politically constructed forum if you cannot fathom the basics of government...
    here's a beginning for you...it might help....
     
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    Because you don't have any clue about the EU institutions and how the EU works... I know!

    You are not tired to tell that the EU is not democratic ... so question: Who will elect the successor of Jean Claude Juncker this year again?
    The EU Parliament ... so the people who were last weekend democratic elected in all member states. So ... what is not democratic again?

    However ....
    Intersting in the UK I find, that the Pro Brexit party of once who pressed the Brexit referendum to be happen - the UKIP - is now meaningless and simply was relaced by the new Farage party only with all the votes of the UKIP + 8% of new votes from the Pro-Brexit people of other parties like the Torries or Labour!

    So ... really a succes I must say ... ROFL!
     
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    It won't be the people, it'll be a bunch of MEPs who are voting.

    If you want the EU to survive, you need to reform this so that the people can elect the head of the EU and not what's in effect congressmen or senators.

    You can't argue that the EU parliament doesn't need reformation because it does.

    When the people can pick the President, that's when the EU has democracy, and no MEP is good enough since there are 721 of them so the people can't count on them voting for who they want to lead the EU.
     
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    MEPs choose the people with the top job, people don't.
    If the leader of Parliament loses their set, they should step down, yet EU parliament gives those with seats the vote and not the people who control the seats, so the people can never unseat a President.
     
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    Isn't that the way it is done in the UK ?
     
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    The English just announced that the primary negotiation with the EU is going to fundamentally change. The people have decided that no deal is now the starting point to leaving. The difference is profound. The ridiculous assumptions of the establishment of both the liberal and tories that somehow a continued relationship was required has now been fully repudiated. The EU now faces a country that no longer expects that there will be any relationship at all. The EU should be nervous.
     
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    Why should the EU be nervous, it is the UK which should be nervous, it could be its end.
     
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    alexa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    In your dreams.
     
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    end.....end of what?
     
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    alexa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Campbell has been excommunicated from Labour for voting for the lib dems and boasting about it. He is crying and says he is going to get a lawyer and demand to be allowed back in

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/may/28/labour-expels-alastair-campbell-from-party

    about time too.
     
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    The United Kingdom
     
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    I heard about this, what can I say? Under Jeremy Corbyn, no one has freedom? I mean, it speaks volumes that Jeremy Corbyn would kick somebody out of the Labour Party because that somebody didn't blindly follow Labour.
     
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    No, if the PM lost their seat that represent their constituency; they can't be PM.
    EU seems to make sure the people with seats get to vote for people with seats.
     
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    You make no sense at all.
     
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    The end of the United Kingdom.
     
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    ...you mean we're all going to die!!!
     
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    Eventually yes, don't you think so ?
     
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    Pathetic. Not his job.

    as far as Campbell

    https://twitter.com/Angry_Voice/status/1133355338714030080
     
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    It's a vendetta against Campbell for being New Labour, and of course, Jeremy Corbyn chose today becuase today The Equality and Human Rights Commission are investigating Labour party for antisemitism.
    It's political spin by Jeremy Corbyn to make sure this Alastair Campbell story is in the headlines and not the investigation.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-48433964
    Labour Party are now the second political party in UK history to be investigated for racism, the first party were the BNP.
     
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    Nick Griffin and Jeremy Corbyn have a lot in common it seems.
     
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    Momentum are thugs, and have been called squatters in the Labour Party.
     

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