REVEALED: Israel’s IDF Used Passenger Airliners as Cover During Christmas Day Attack <MOD WARNING>

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  1. Striped Horse

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    I was surprised to see no one had posted about this story. But then again...

    Anyway, it appears that Israel, in a move to a move to avoid the new S-300 missile and associated air defence system in Syria used commercial airliners as cover to attack a number of Syrian targets in and around Damascus.

    It was a re-run of the manoeuvre that led to the shoot down of the Russian IL-20 in September that led to Russia sending the S-300 system to Syria in the first place.

    One wonders of the idea was to have the Syrian and Russian missiles shoot-down an international airliner by accident to cause world-wide condemnation and as a means of curtailing Trump's troop pullout from Syria?

    https://21stcenturywire.com/2018/12...over-during-christmas-day-attack-on-damascus/
     
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    The nazi regime taking human shield use to its devilish conclusion.
     
  3. truth and justice

    truth and justice Well-Known Member

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    Are there any other independent sources to this story?
     
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    Striped Horse Well-Known Member

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    You mean non Russian, right?
     
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    Aljazeera would be good
     
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    Let us assume you are correct and the Israeli planes hid behind a commercial one.
    Now during the attack the Syrian defense fired tens of missiles at the attacking planes,
    and still they failed even to hit the commercial plane ?
    This is beyond silly.
     
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    RiaRaeb Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    From the source,

    Konashenkov said the Syrian military didn't fully engage its air defense assets to avoid accidentally hitting the passenger jets.

    Israel attacks then blames the victim for defending themselves.

    The Israeli official said it was Syrian air defenses that endangered the civilian planes, by firing 30 missiles in response to the airstrike.

    Only in Zionist double speak can you be the aggressor for defending yourself whilst the Zionist attackers become the victims!
    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...yria-threatened-civilian-flights?srnd=premium
     
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    Syria fired missiles at Israeli missiles, not at the planes. Israel used civilian planes as shields. Israel has committed yet another war crime to add to the long list. Meanwhile Israel have just quietly given the go ahead to construct another 2191 homes on the West Bank. Thieves. https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2018...ttlement-plans-west-bank-181228051801018.html

    Israel clearly do nor want peace with the Palestinians but just want to steal more and more land.
     
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    Striped Horse Well-Known Member

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    Speaking of silly, do you imagine I wrote those news reports then?
     
  11. Jeannette

    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Oh you mean the MSM? :roflol:
     
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    I believe Syria knocked down all the missiles except for 3 since they couldn't use the new missile defenses for fear of hitting the airliners. Israel might have hoped they would, so there would be world wide condemnation of the missile defense system. It would also stop airliners from going to Damascus.

    I think Netanyahu is cracking up. Very dangerous!
     
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    I have news for you, I stopped reading Al Jazeera when they began repeating the MSM line.
     
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    A joke as a kill ratio of 14 out of 16 bombs/missiles is not likely in an of itself.

    War crimes as in randomly firing missiles into civilians population centers by the thousands?
     
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    Frankly, I was surprised to see that someone has posted about this story. The article linked doesn't provide even a tip of a tail of that wonderful stuff that makes the difference between Charing Cross Road (aka reality) and Diagon Alley: proof.

    You know, some small annoying albeit necessary details - what airlines did the planes belong to, plane numbers, places of origin, number of passengers, tears squeezing stories about little children almost blown out of Santa skies by peace-loving Syrian missiles because of evil Israelis - are completely missing from the article. There's plenty of Diagon alley in there, but no Charing Cross Road.

    Please let me know when you have credible information. I won't hold my breath.
     
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    Here is a fact for you, the evil Jewish State yet again violated the sovereignty of Syria. Got that, want to try saying the Jewish State has not done so?
     
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    Don't they all do this... it's why we lost MH17 after all
     
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    Another morsel of credible information is that the Israeli's have used passenger planes as shields before with catastrophic results for Russian troops.

    It is entirely predictable that Israel's hard liners would want to provoke a retaliatory response from Syria or Hezbollah now that Israeli lobbies in the US have orchestrated the positioning of US troops on Israeli soil with orders to "die for Israel"(1)

    Any loyal American should be outraged that America's sons & daughters in uniform have been relegated to Netanyahu's cannon fodder as Israeli officers are to assume command over American G.I.s in the event of hostilities.(2)

    Now, Netanyahu etc need only wait for a Hezbollah retaliatory rocket to kill one American & the US will, once again, be duped into fighting another war for Israel (3)


    (1) "US Commander: ‘US Troops Prepared to Die for Israel’ in War against Syria, Hezbollah"
    https://www.mintpressnews.com/israe...a-harbinger-of-war-on-syria-hezbollah/238768/

    EXCERPT "In addition, Israel has been laying the groundwork for an invasion of Syria since last year and is largely responsible for the current conflict in Syria that has raged on for seven years. Israel’s current push to invade Syria is also based on flimsy evidence suggesting that Iran is establishing bases in Syria to target Israel.

    Israel has also been preparing for a conflict on the embattled Gaza strip, which – owing to the effects of Israel’s illegal blockade and the devastation wrought by past wars – is set to be entirely uninhabitable by 2020.

    Beyond the fact that Israel is preparing to go to war with several countries simultaneously is the fact that U.S. ground troops are now “prepared to die for the Jewish state,” according to U.S. Third Air Force Commander Lt. Gen. Richard Clark.

    However, more troubling than the fact that U.S. troops stand ready to die at Israel’s behest was Clark’s assertion that Haimovitch would “probably” have the last word as to whether U.S. forces would join the IDF during war time. In other words, the IDF will decide whether or not U.S. troops become embroiled in the regional war for which Israel is preparing, not the United States.

    Indeed, Haimovitch buoyed Clark’s words, stating that: “I am sure once the order comes we will find here U.S. troops on the ground to be part of our deployment and team to defend the state of Israel.”CONTINUED


    (2) "Top US General Says American Troops Should Be Ready To Die For Israel"
    https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018...ys-american-troops-should-be-ready-die-israel


    (3) “QUIETLY LOBBYING CONGRESS TO APPROVE THE USE OF FORCE IN IRAQ WAS ONE OF AIPAC’S SUCCESSES OVER THE PAST YEAR.”

    AIPAC Executive Director Howard Kohr; N.Y. Sun, Jan. 2003
     
  19. Pisa

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    We could exchange compliments - evil vs perfidious - until fingertips become numb. However, I'm more interested in facts than verbal exercises in futility.

    Please quote the international laws that support your point of view.
     
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    Claiming to have credible information right before posting unrelated links to mintpress and zerohedge is not exactly the best way to win me over.
     
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    Do you think anyone's so stupid as to advertise which airliners were being used as human shields by Israel. That Israel was accussed by the Russian military should be sufficient.
     
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    I was a bit curious too. The whole thing hinges on assertions from Russian & Syrian governments, so not a good start.

    I'd like to know the mechanics of this. Given the incredibly short flying time between Israel & Damascus, did the evil Jews just sit up in the sky doing laps until a couple of aircraft happened to show up? Did the evil Jews wait on the runway with all their bombs etc. loaded and only take off when the planes showed up? Did the evil Jews know about know about the planes well ahead of time so they could plan the whole thing (coz evil Jews know stuff like that).

    Lots of questions.

    This may have happened exactly as claimed, but so far we only have two motivated & highly untrustworthy sources to rely on.
     
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    It's incredibly easy to find out which airliners were about to land in Beirut and Damascus at the time of the Israeli attack. If the story was true, the details would've been known almost immediately.

    The Russian military knows, of course, that an Iranian plane landed in Damascus that evening, loaded with weapons for Hezbollah. That's the elephant on Charing Cross Road the Russians don't want the world to see.
     
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    You're right, of course. Arrivals boards at airports are online, as far as I know, but planes routes can - and often do - change in mid-flight.

    The secret of successful attacks - or successful everything - is careful planning and impeccable execution. As you said, the distances are very short at airplane velocity, and even the slightest change in the allegedly chosen airliners route would've blown the Israeli attack to smithereens. Regardless of how evil our enemies think we are, they can't possibly believe the Israeli army is that stupid. The mechanics would've been exactly what you described, not a likely scenario for an army known for not being stupid.

    Anyone with half a brain can verify information about arrivals at airports. The fact that nobody can tell which airliners were allegedly targeted by Israeli military speaks volumes.
     
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    Can I suggest you try beating a way out of your self-censored myopic prison-like-cocoon and try the new exciting experiment that is doing the rounds these days.

    By which I mean: "reading".

    Yep, try actually reading the now wide variety of reports that are available on this event. You could try The Jerusalem Post and also Haaretz for example.
     

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