Revealed: Whopping 73 Percent of CBO's 'Lost Coverage' Estimate Comes From Individual Mandate Repeal

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/guybe...me-from-repeal-of-individual-mandate-n2358719

Guy Benson

Posted: Jul 24, 2017 10:25 AM


Conservative healthcare policy wonk Avik Roy, a strong supporter of the imperiled Senate healthcare bill, wrote an eye-opening analysis over the weekend. He examined and applied leaked data in order to demonstrate how the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office would score any GOP Obamacare replacement bill as "denying" coverage to at least 16 million Americans. That's due to CBO's fanatical belief in the power of the existing law's individual mandate tax, an article of faith to which they've clung, despite hard contradictory evidence. For the first time, Roy is able to reveal exactly how heavily -- and dubiously -- CBO leans on the strength the individual mandate in producing its coverage numbers. This is vitally important context for the current healthcare debate, both in terms of swatting down Democrats' favorite attack line, as well addressing as moderate Republicans' top hesitancy. He begins by noting the bizarre stability of Congressional bookkeepers' "lost" coverage figures, no matter how vastly various Republican-backed 'repeal and replace' measures may differ:

In the national debate over the GOP health reform proposals, one data point has stood out above all others: the estimate, from the Congressional Budget Office, that more than 20 million people would “lose” coverage as a result. And there’s been an odd consistency to the CBO’s projections. Do you want to repeal every word of Obamacare and replace it with nothing? CBO says 22 million fewer people would have health insurance. Do you prefer replacing Obamacare with a system of flat tax credits, in which you get the same amount of assistance regardless of your financial need? CBO says 23 million fewer people would have health insurance. Do you prefer replacing Obamacare with means-tested tax credits, like the Senate bill does, in which the majority of the assistance is directed to those near or below the poverty line? CBO says 22 million fewer people would have health insurance. 22 million, 23 million, 22 million—these numbers are remarkably similar even though the three policies I describe above are significantly different. Why is that?

It should be noted that CBO's score of a repeal-only measure under which Obamacare's regulations remained in place pegged this number significantly higher, at 32 million. Roy goes on to use previously-unpublished data to highlight precisely how individual-mandate-centric (and therefore unreliable) CBO's coverage calculations are:

Thanks to information that was leaked to me by a congressional staffer, we now have the answer. Nearly three-fourths of the difference in coverage between Obamacare and the various GOP plans derives from a single feature of the Republican bills: their repeal of Obamacare’s individual mandate. But the CBO has never published a year-by-year breakout of the impact of the individual mandate on its coverage estimates. But CBO has developed its own estimates of that impact, during work it did last December to estimate the effects of repealing the individual mandate as a standalone measure. Based on those estimates, of the 22 million fewer people who will have health insurance in 2026 under the Senate bill, 16 million will voluntarily drop out of the market because they will no longer face a financial penalty for doing so: 73 percent of the total. As you can see in the above chart, two factors—repealing Obamacare’s individual mandate and the CBO’s outdated March 2016 baseline—explain nearly all of the CBO-scored coverage difference between GOP bills and Obamacare.

Here's that chart:

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Entirety of CBO coverage difference w/ACA & BCRA: BCRA's repeal of individual mandate & CBO's outdated baseline. https://www.forbes.com/sites/theapothecary/2017/07/22/cbo-three-fourths-of-coverage-difference-between-obamacare-gop-bills-driven-by-individual-mandate/#32a024753627 …

So fully 73 percent of "lost" coverage would arise from individuals making a choice to exit the marketplace after the federal government ceased requiring every American to purchase insurance. CBO analysts apparently believe the mandate has mystical influence over consumers' decisions, unlike other incentives built into Republican bills -- such as a surcharge for non-continuous coverage, or a six-month waiting period to obtain plans for people with nonexistent or lapsed coverage. The folly of this approach is exposed by the second factor Roy mentions, which accounts for almost all of CBO's remaining coverage differential between Obamacare and various replacement plans: The "outdated baseline." What does that mean? Put simply, CBO has always vastly overestimated how many people would be compelled by the individual mandate tax to purchase plans. Even as their projections have been disproven by actual Obamacare sign-ups, CBO hasn't sufficiently updated their expectations to reflect, well, reality. They've instead rooted their latest analyses in 2016 projections that have already been debunked by real-life results, to the tune of millions of people. This is a critical point I made in my fact check piece on the dishonest, CBO-aided "22-23 million lose coverage" talking point. Remember this graph?



Those blue lines merely remind us of how strikingly inaccurate CBO's original expectations were. The red line is the "outdated baseline" that they are still using to score Republican legislation, despite the light green line, representing real-life sign-ups. Just consider the 2017 data points alone: Three years ago, CBO anticipated that Obamacare would enroll 24 million consumers on the exchanges this year. Last year, that estimate had fallen to 15 million. The real number? 10.3 million and falling, quite likely dipping to around nine million by the end of this year. That's a six million person misfire that's built into CBO's analysis of the GOP bills. That's indefensible. Here is Roy's conclusion in a companion piece at Forbes: "There’s a simple way for Republicans to highlight the CBO’s mandate mania: have CBO score one version of the bill with an individual mandate, and one version without. It’ll make as plain as day what those of us who follow this stuff see up close: that the mandate is the secret sauce driving the CBO’s faulty coverage predictions." In short, of the scary 22 million "lost coverage" number, almost all of it is attributable to people choosing not to buy something they weren't required to, coupled with that bogus, inflated analytical baseline. Some of it also relies on the flawed expectations that (a) millions of additional consumers will somehow be persuaded by the mandate in the coming years (why? how?), and (b) that hypothetical future Medicaid expansion in certain states will be canceled by 'repeal and replace.'

So virtually every person who would allegedly be "stripped" of coverage under the GOP plan would either be making a conscious choice of their own volition, or currently do not have coverage (but supposedly would in the future). You can argue that this is an undesirable outcome, but you can't responsibly call it lost coverage. It just isn't. I'll leave you with one more statistic. Yes, the GOP proposals on the table are polling terribly, largely because the center-left is uniformly and hystericallyopposed to them -- while conservatives are divided and unsure about what is actually in the bills. Misinformation, including the "lost coverage" distortion explained in this post, is rampant. This has led some partisans to spin a tale that the failing Obamacare status quo is suddenly popular. A recent USA Today poll showed that only 11 percent of Americans favor keeping Democrats' law intact, as is. Here's another national survey conducted for CNN, published late last week:

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CNN poll: Barely over 1/3 of Americans want GOP to abandon #Obamacare repeal. Majority favor repeal, split on timing of replacement.

A majority still supports repeal, albeit on varying timelines, whereas only 35 percent of voters want the GOP to walk away from the push they've been promising for seven years. That would not be the outcome of a poll about a thriving, successful, newly-beloved law that people want to keep. [/quote]

Wow, finally a leak in the other direction!

I wonder if this can change the public opinion about the GOP law. It seems the only issue people had with it, was that so many would "be kicked off their insurance", to quote The Bern. If they are CHOOSING to abandon their insurance, that is a VERY different thing.

 

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if the basic premise is that the removal of the mandate is the primary driver for those "losing" insurance, but in reality its strictly their choice, nobody is really losing anyting

Then I agree.

 

Jesus christ...just copy and paste a couple of paragraphs and then give your opinion.

 

So if you remove the Individual Mandate, then how do you pay for those who stay on? I thought the entire point of the Individual Mandate was to cover the high risk pool? Unless they also remove the regulation that allows those with pre-existing conditions to obtain health insurance?

Seems like there would be huge losses to the insurance companies...?

 

Exactly how Obamacare passed to begin with

 

Of the 22 million reported to lose health insurance, 15 million of these fall under the Medicaid group. So how are those 15 million losing insurance solely because there is no mandate to purchase health insurance?

 

You can read the GOP plan online. They move high risk people to their own pool, funded by government.

 

When you use the numbers the CBO gives for scoring, you still come up with about 7 million more people who will have insurance than before Obamacare.

 

*Along with 18 months of debate, hundreds of Republican amendments, dozens of hearings, and multiple townhalls.

 

And 22-32 million fewer than currently do.

 

The presumption is that people who didn't have insurance until they were forced, will resume not having it when it's no longer forced.

The MOST interesting thing about this data to me, is where the CBO seems to think that somehow magically 22 million people will sign up in 2018, despite the fact that only 9 million are signed up now, after all these years. What on earth do they think will cause all those people to suddenly sign up?

 

You'll have to link that up. The CBO scores only 22 million will lose coverage while 15 million of that will be due to not purchasing because they don't have to.

Edit: don't forget, you can't use a baseline number that has never existed in reality. Well you can, but then everything based off that is bs.

 

Part of your problem is that you are ignoring and forgetting the number of people insured because of the medicaid expansion. That number is 15 million.

 

Do away with free birth control

 

No. That is not correct. Did you read the article? The 22 million figure is based on there being 16 more million people who will magically sign up by 2018.

In short, of the 22 million who will "LOSE" coverage, 16 million of them FACTUALLY DO NOT HAVE INSURANCE RIGHT NOW.

 

None of which was included in the bill.

 

No, that's inaccurate. 15 million will lose health insurance due to medicaid rolling back.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...yan-wrong-most-22-million-uninsured-would-be/

Of the 22 million total, about 7 million will not purchase health insurance, but the overwhelming percentage of those individuals will do so because of the lack of a subsidy that will help them pay for the health insurance. Not merely because "they don't have to."

 

I'm not forgetting anything, you are just moving the goal post, then wondering why my comments from before the movement don't align.

You are half right. Yes, there are 15 million who gained coverage by the expansion of Medicaid. But, if you read what the article says, you will see that the CBO is of the opinion that they will still CHOOSE to drop it, if allowed.

 

The bill was passed after hundreds of Republican amendments, including two that required a rollcall vote, took place and were accepted.

 

Your Politifact fact check pre-dates this analysis of leaked CBO data. It's the CBO who is saying this now, not just Paul Ryan.

 

what were these two amendments the GOP passed that totally changed PPACA?

 

Wait, so rather then simply using money from other insured individuals, you fund it from the general taxpayer? That seems like a decidedly un-conservative idea.

Ok, so I looked into this, and they have capped it at 115Billion for all the states to use If they so desire. There is no mandate that the states create these pools, so like the Medicate expansion, they could be turned down. As well, it seems that these high risk pools are also Extremely expensive, and the previous ones had massive deductibles.

The previous High Risk Pools, who's costs were huge as is, also did not include pre-existing conditions, so chances are this new pool (which will) will have costs even higher.

Yeah, cause people having more babies will totally bring HC costs down lol.

 

You mean politifact has not written a new article on this estimate in the last 3 days? Woah.

 

Did you notice how you adjusted your question to ask for amendments that totally changed PPACA? I did.

 

The Paul Ryan fact check is months old, and the SOURCE used to discredit his statement, is the CBO. Now the CBO leak shows that they feel the same way as Paul Ryan. Ergo, that fact check just bit the dust.