Reversing desertification with livestock in Zimbabwe

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    well, elephants should be included in any regenerative system that is implemented in a conservation setting. I don't know why they would be removed.
     
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    Elephants and fences don't do well together. They tend to knock them down and then angry farmers shoot them. This is a good example of my gripe with the whole AGW movement. Real environmental issues get shoved aside and even exacerbated in the quest to fight this boogeyman called AGW.
     
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    True. We need to think of things holistically, which is the basis of the Savory institute and regenerative agriculture. BTW, I am not affiliated with Savory. I just think he is right.
     
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    His way of grazing is definitely right but for other reasons than carbon sequestration. The unitended consequences of expanding human development into even more natural habitat in the name of fighting global warming is where I take issue.
     
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    I agree. In fact, I am close to graduation, and my dream job is to work with restoring the buffalo herds in North America.
     
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    We have preserved mountain and desert and coastal environment with national parks and wilderness areas but the once great plains has been left out of the equation for the most part. I would love to see a very large chunk of it returned to a natural state.


    http://alterdestiny.blogspot.com/2009/11/great-plains-national-park.html
     
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    Here is a video of a herd, but they are so depleted it would take a monumental shift to restore them to anything even closely resembling the past.

     
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    To have a great plains NP capable of sustaining anything near a natural ecosystem would take millions of acres and I'm not hopeful it can be done at this point.
     
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    The problem is that you don't own the land. I don't either. The only solution that I can think of is creating a market ....a real market for buffalo meat and hide. Then landowners on the plains would raise them. It could expand the population and genetics could be managed. There is a small herd....or at least there was....just north of here in Alabama. I have heard that Bison are mean. Get the Iron Chefs and Gordon Ramsey to make it popular. Alabama has a lot of beef. Bison....not so much.
     
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    The land would have to be purchased at fair market value by the government, the same government that once gave it away to encourage settlement. Unfortunately it's a pipe dream that isn't going to happen.
     

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