RIP Roseanne

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  1. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    Roseanne is to be killed off in the fall

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/tv/news/john-goodman-on-roseannes-fate/ar-BBMwAPx?OCID=ansmsnnews11

    Please, please, let her have a car accident and be decapitated. Then we can have some jokes about Jayne Mansfield and Xena Warrior Princess after which this monstrous rebirth of what was in the first place a sitcom consisting ENTIRELY of tasteless humor can limp through another few unfunny weeks before coming to a much deserved end. The only new and innovative thing that show ever proved was that playing to the lowest common denominator can be successful on Cable too.
     
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    IIRC, in the last episode or so she was struggling with an addiction to pills. Maybe she will Overdose.
     
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    I had hoped she would be shipped off to a mental hospital, but killing her is fine too. The mental hospital thing is still a real life option.
     
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    (Shrug) I didn't like her or her humor when she was the protected darling of the Left and nor when she became a Trump fan and thus automatically a political target of the Left. But she had the charisma to carry a show pretty much by herself and the current staff of characters probably cannot compensate for her absence. People tuned in to see Rosanne, not Dan Connor. John Goodman is a good actor; but it wasn't his show. I give it a little less than a fifty/fifty chance for survival.
     
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    Show me evidence of why your statement isn't delusional. ;)
     
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    Hahahahaha! So you slept during the 1980s and 1990s?
     
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    I said show me evidence and you come back with a crackpot post, of course. Show me the evidence.
     
  8. Aleksander Ulyanov

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    I can't find any ratings from the 90's but Roseanne was the major comedienne in the "new breed" of standups who turned themed routines into tv series, like Tim Allen with "Home Improvement and the eponymous Ray Romano. She was possibly the most successful with a show on for 10 seasons. Most tv series are considered successful at 3 , very successful at 5 and icons at 10 and above
     
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    With her stay in rehab being a major part of her stand up specials on HBO next year. I still hope they behead her.
     
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    Sure, but that has nothing to do with "the left".
     
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    Too bad she went bat s*it crazy and became a Trumpbot.
     
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    She tries to play off her crazy as cute. It's not cute. It's just crazy. Her last show was called Roseanne's Nuts
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    I never liked "Home Improvement" Tim Allen has to be the un-funniest guy I've ever seen. But I did like Rosanne in spite of myself, she was just funny. I was rather taken aback the she was fired for behaving exactly like we all know her be.
     
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    I don't think she did, I think that was a part of the tv persona they wanted her to push. She was something of a feminist in her original standup routine. i think she saw that her "comeback" would give her a season or two at best before the novelty wore off and wanted to pull a publicity stunt to use her show as the basis for a revitalized standup routine. Some of these Cable service specials are extremely lucrative approaching what they can earn in a season with one 90 minute show. I dunno, if that was her idea it may have backfired just a little, though it's nothing so far approaching what happened when Kathy Griffin tried it.
     
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    Kathy Griffin was just dumb. I think Roseanne is really nuts. I could be wrong.
     
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    They're all nuts, but they can usually make their insanity pay. Comedians have a hard time in that people quickly become tired of them, while their own routines may in fact be their real personalities. Performers find it very difficult to reinvent themselves but think of how much harder it must be for somebody like Tim Allen whose beginning routine was to make fun of the type of person he actually was. He's managed it, however.

    I read that Griffin's holding Trump's head was based on Trump's saying " I saw blood coming out of her eyes and face and whatever" about some woman commentator, which I remember I found both extremely offensive and rather bizarre but nobody said very much to him about it at all. She was trying, I think, to carve out a new niche for herself as the anti-Trump since her Starstruck routine was getting stale. Bad idea as to how to do that.
     
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    I didn't like her humor either and I agree with you that she carried the show. Her anthem performance was reprehensible and
    she should be remembered for that. I don't remember her being the darling of the dems.
     
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    All comedians are acquired tastes. Sam Kinison actually irritated the vast majority of people quite a bit but made a good living.

    Do you think Carroll O'Connor was even slightly like Archie Bunker in real life? TV shows have sponsors and the sponsors have customers who are very, VERY hard to acquire and even more easy to lose. The final purpose of any tv show on the "public" networks is to sell soap and if you give blacks the impression that your sponsoring soap maker REALLY thinks they are monkeys.....
     
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    No, Hollywood has an unforgiving ideological electric fence around it.
     
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    Commercial TV yes, but I have to disagree with movies or even Cable TV. Keep in mind that all of these forms have to appeal to the "masses" and the masses are notoriously easy to offend. The last thing any studio wants is to put out even ONE movie that will have the public boycotting theatres that show it.

    That being said movies are no strangers to controversy, as that sells tickets too. They often set the problems in the past, or the future, on another world, etc, but they are there, Just a few days ago I was rewatching Ridley Scott's KIngdom of Heaven, which talks about the Middle East in all it's controversy, but during the Crusades. Great story and it visits just about all the shades of the struggles that remain ongoing there today.
     
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    How did they deal with Charlie Sheen when he got booted from Two and a Half Men?
     
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    Oh no, it's everywhere. Hollyweird is arguably the biggest offender. Conservatives have to be closeted to be employable. Ben Shapiro once interviewed a number of Hollyweird executives during college. They were very open to him about it.

    You're confusing hypersensitive audiences with ideological bigots in Hollyweird itself that won't hire conservatives and routinely make movies that take ideological swipes from a left wing perspective.

     
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    Roseanne Barr = Republican, supporter of Trump ~ that says it all
     
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