Rising number of overdoses amid dim job prospects for Millenials

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  1. OldManOnFire

    OldManOnFire Well-Known Member

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    Your personal attacks are truly meaningless. Try reading this; http://www.latimes.com/projects/la-fi-construction-trump/

    Regarding myself...well...I'm a farmer and I hire farm workers all the time so I actually live in the real world. In my reality, there are no white-bread Americans willing to do this work. So we actually have zero choice, other than going out of business, but to hire those who are willing to work and these are immigrants, green cards, non-citizens, etc. As with all wages, it is not me who decides how much I pay. If I want reliable and skilled workers I must pay whatever the labor force demands. Today this is $20 to $25/hour depending on skills. Even with this we have an extreme shortage of labor! You pretend to live in the real world but if you opened your eyes, took off your political blinders, you will see just about every business today has a help wanted sign posted! Why is this? It's because Americans have decided they simply are not going to do certain types of work. Even if I paid $100/hour, the typical fat and lazy American won't last past lunch on the first day of work! So logic dictates that these labor shortages will be filled by others who are willing to do the work...and this is why we have immigrants, green cards, and non-citizens. BTW; I hire companies to do construction for us and I'm guessing the labor is typically 50% white and 50% immigrant...with the immigrants doing the crapiest work...because the white boys don't want to do that work...like roofing and asphalt and digging.
     
  2. james M

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    exactly, thanks to liberal unions taxes budget deficits and 30 million illegals to take the jobs that are left and bid down wages.
     
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    james M Well-Known Member

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    here's some econ 101 for you. Cheap labor means lower prices not more profits at top. If one manufacturer gets lower costs by moving to China and does not pass on savings to customers another competitor will and the original competitor will go bankrupt. Now do you understand?
     
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    more econ 101 for you: tools and robots have been replacing billions of workers for centuries. This means higher wages not lower wages because tools and robots make workers more efficient and productive. Who earns more a guy digging with a spoon or a guy digging with a bulldozer? Now do you understand?
     
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    more economics 101 for you: tools and robots have been in use for 1000 years. USA has most tools and robots in world but employment is still 96%. What does that teach you?
     
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    Liberals treasonously love illegals. They are Hispanic or Latin nationalists more than White nationalists. It's not that they love hispanic people so much rather that they have found supporting illegals is a good source of votes. It's truly a subversion of our democracy.
     
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    absurd of course, unless they enjoy starving to death? Cut off the welfare and let wages rise to market level. Then there will be no poverty, unemployment, or entitlement attitudes in America. Do you understand?
     
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    And they complain even louder if it was something they were getting for free. H3ll, they complain because they aren't getting MORE, for free.
    Are drugs so cheap that the unemployed can afford enough of them to overdose? Perhaps the price of any drug someone could overdose on should be raised to cover the costs related to taking care of those who do so? Another 'sin' tax like that on alcohol, tobacco, etc.
     
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    1) most drug overdose deaths are accidental
    2) heroin is biggest but illegal so you have no control over price
    3) Oxycodone is cheap but needed by lots of folk in chronic pain

    Solution is to let Republicans reintroduce folks to a new world of religion and work.
     
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    FrankCapua Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    According to the labor department there were 6.5 Million unfilled jobs at the end of June. Perhaps some millenials feel those jobs are beneath them with their degrees in gender studies.
     
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    No, it can't 'inflict anyone'. You have to set kids up to fail this spectacularly. It takes considerable dedication on the part of the parents.
     
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    Bunk. I just had extensive work done on my house and the workers were nearly all white citizens.
     
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    Sorry buddy but there are no boundaries when it comes to substance abuse...
     
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    OldManOnFire Well-Known Member

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    Wow...your single so-called experience is representative of everything...
     
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    yup. just like yours. such hypocrisy.
     
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    That's not true. If we look back in to the 70s we can see that robots followed low unemployment. West Germany, Sweden, Japan, all that very high levels of unemployment and the cost of labor was getting too expensive. So the companies turned to robots. So it's really the other way around. High employment rates lead to robots. When you have lots of poor people, labor is cheaper than robots.

    The "real" employment level in the U.S. is not 96%. And things are not being robotized, that's just a myth.
    It's true that computer programs are now doing tasks that clerical office workers used to do, and some retail stores are trying to implement automated checkout, with limited success.
    U.S. unemployment is not coming from robots. It's an idea that sounds interesting and intuitive, but it just isn't true.
     
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    You might want to reread that, kaz. It on the one hand you said "...very high levels of unemployment and the cost of labor was getting too expensive. So the companies turned to robots" (robots followed high unemployment). (First, it seems odd that high unemployment and high cost of labor would coincide.) And you say "robots followed low unemployment".
     
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    correction, it should have read "West Germany, Sweden, Japan, all very high levels of employment"
    too late to go fix it now

    obviously I meant very low unemployment causes companies to turn to robots
    (ultimately a good thing in that case)
     
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