Rising number of overdoses amid dim job prospects for Millenials

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  1. kazenatsu

    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That's not true. If we look back in to the 70s we can see that robots followed low unemployment. West Germany, Sweden, Japan, all that very high levels of unemployment and the cost of labor was getting too expensive. So the companies turned to robots. So it's really the other way around. High employment rates lead to robots. When you have lots of poor people, labor is cheaper than robots.

    The "real" employment level in the U.S. is not 96%. And things are not being robotized, that's just a myth.
    It's true that computer programs are now doing tasks that clerical office workers used to do, and some retail stores are trying to implement automated checkout, with limited success.
    U.S. unemployment is not coming from robots. It's an idea that sounds interesting and intuitive, but it just isn't true.
     
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    You might want to reread that, kaz. It on the one hand you said "...very high levels of unemployment and the cost of labor was getting too expensive. So the companies turned to robots" (robots followed high unemployment). (First, it seems odd that high unemployment and high cost of labor would coincide.) And you say "robots followed low unemployment".
     
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    correction, it should have read "West Germany, Sweden, Japan, all very high levels of employment"
    too late to go fix it now

    obviously I meant very low unemployment causes companies to turn to robots
    (ultimately a good thing in that case)
     
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    of course it is. employment is 96% here and we have more tools and robots than any place on earth
     
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    ????? high unemployment makes labor relatively cheap. This means fewer robots. So you are wrong once again. Sorry.
     
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    if I said it was I'll pay you $10,000. Bet???
     
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    yes to robots and other tools. So??????????
     
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    Protecting yourself from fentanyl...
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    In our society if a person seeks medical care/examination I'm guessing it's a 90% probability that the person will discover they have a disease/illness they didn't know they had and will be given a drug prescription. With just a few questions asking the patient how they feel, what things bother them, etc. a doctor will prescribe a purported remedy drug. Like; I can't pee, I pee too often, I'm constipated, overweight, I have heartburn, I have gas, get headaches, can't sleep, don't have energy, and on and on and there is a purported drug for every little ache and pain. IMO this is where this drug addiction problem begins! So who is to blame...the patient or the medical practitioner? The patient wants an easy solution...they don't wish to be told to change their diet, or to lose weight, or to exercise, or to stop recreational drugs and smoking and alcohol, etc...they want the easy solution in a pill. So no matter how tragic these drug stories become, 90%+ of the time the blame is on the person...
     
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    1 in 10 young adults have been homeless over the past year, survey finds

     
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    WAKEY, WAKEY AMERICA!

    Despite the fact that the US unemployment rate is down, the far more important ratio of Employment-to-population Ratio is creeping up slowly - as I have presented on this forum already many a time. From here, this infographic of that ratio:
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    From the above it is obvious that we (as a nation) are nowhere near the E-to-p Ratio that existed in 2008. So the inevitable questions arises: Why?

    The answer is simple. We are progressing from the Industrial Age to the Information Age. Which means what?

    It means that the manufacturing industries that once allowed jobs to a higher percentage of the effective population is no longer possible! Why? Because the jobs that occupied them no longer exist! (In fact, they still exist but in China, Vietnam, Thailand, etc., etc., etc. Ad nauseam.)

    As I never cease from underlining: We are transiting ages - going from the Industrial to the Information Age. Which means what?

    It means that those rudimentary crafts that were a necessity for an Industrial Age job no longer apply to the Information Age? Howzat?

    The Information Age jobs are mostly in Services Industries that require a different, higher set of abilities. A set that one learns insufficiently in High-School. Information Age jobs require skill-sets that are learned in Tertiary Education programs (such as Vocational, Associate, Bachelor and Doctoral level degrees).

    Does higher education make a difference in pay-scale? You betcha:
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    Whilst advanced degrees are attainable in Europe nearly free, gratis and for nothing - since they are subsidized at state-schools by national governments - in the US they cost far too much for those who need the credentials most. (Especially vocational training.)

    And which country has the world's most expensive Tertiary Education costs? One guess:
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    And in this last election, we made a colossal mistake. (Or rather, the Electoral College made the mistake colossally.) Hillary had adopted Bernie's idea that a post-secondary degree should be funded by the federal government at state schools.

    Hillary, as you know, won the popular-vote (by a l-a-r-g-e margin) but lost the presidency. So, we are now stuck as a nation with a first-class idiot as a PotUS. And the people who need the education are those between (in the above E-to-p Ratio infographic) the percentage of 60.4% today and the 63% of 2008. Because with higher qualifications/skills the higher the level job to which job-seekers can apply.

    Which means what? Just one instance: American companies are obliged to go to India to seek the higher skills necessary in Information Technology. The US does not have enough people we can train in those skills? Of course we do! But those Indians (from India) coming to work in the US got their education free, gratis and for no-cost! As did those from Eastern Europe also seeking their way to a good-job in either Western Europe or the US.

    Wakey, wakey, America ... !!!
     
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    HISTORY OF MANKIND IN THE MAKING

    The so-called millenials were first born in the early 1980s. Which means they came into active working age 15/20 years later - depending upon whether they went on to a post-graduate degree or not.

    And I figure this makes a Great Distinction between and amongst them. If you obtained that post-secondary degree then you are far better off today than if you did not.

    Whyzzat?

    Because twenty-years later was the turn-of-the-century and it was also historically dramatic. This "thing" called the Information Age was born at that time.

    Howzat?

    The first elements of the Internet were taken out of a laboratory and placed on the only "computer network" in existence at the time. (Which was called "ARPAnet", explained here as: The Advanced Research Projects Agency Network (ARPANET) was an early packet switching network and the first network to implement the protocol suite TCP/IP. Both technologies became the technical foundation of the Internet.)

    In the late 1990s, Tim Burners-Lee came from Europe to create the "HTTP" protocol, which was the heart-beat of the "Internet" that became the central carrier of communications ("mail" and then "web-pages"). The Internet was born.

    By 1998, two kids at Stanford University (now billionaires) created a means for searching the Internet. It was/is called "Google".

    Today, the Internet is the principle means of communicating (mailing or by video) as well as the business function of commercializing products/services. It has become the heartbeat of the Information Age amongst this first group of users (now adults) known as the "millennials".

    The Internet came fully of age at the turn of the century and is now, today in 2018, "the heartbeat" just mentioned. And it still has a way to go.

    We just do not know today exactly to "where" it will progress but it is indeed presently human history-in-the-making ...
     
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    Simple:
    1) 30 million liberal illegals taking our jobs
    2) highest liberal taxes in world driving jobs off shore
    3) huge liberal regulations driving jobs off shore
    4) massive entitlement/welfare programs discouraging people from working
    5) liberal war on family, religion, and schools rendering millions of Americans unfit for work
     
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    1) an alt right fake news fake, a deliberate falsification: maybe 11 million illegal aliens live in the US and maybe 7 million of them have jobs - 3% of the work force

    2) what 'liberal' taxes - for alt right fake news

    3) ditto

    4) 25 years ago, yes

    5) Christian extremism engaged in a covered assault on the modernization of American culture
     
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    When a person is unable to bring their talents up to a basic level that would allow them to work at a decent salary, it is no wonder that they will turn to drugs. This problem has been with us for a long, long time. It is also an important reason why youth-deaths are as high as they are today.

    Which country has the highest Youth Mortality Rate? You betcha! We do!
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    It is self-evident from the above that "violence" is the major killer in the US.

    There has to be a reason for the above, and my feeling is that what we see on the TV we enact in our own lives. Especially with the gun-mania that has enraptured the US.

    Of course, if that is the way you (plural) want to live, then who am I say you are a fool. But, neither do I live in the US nor do I particularly fear dying by gunshot over here in France ...
     
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    ship 30 million illegals home, make unions illegal again, end the corporate tax and you'd have 60 million jobs for Americans tomorrow and with huge upward pressure on wages. 1+1=2
     
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    Move james M's tote nonsense quotes to never never land, please. No 30 mm illegals live here. Unions will never be made illegal again. The corporate tax will never be removed. You do all those things, and Americans would be working 64 hours a week for $4.50 an hour.
     
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    Why did they only select the white countries on that list?
    (And two Asian countries that just so happen to have the highest IQ levels in Asia)

    If you can, please show ONE, just ONE, country that has a non-white, non-Asian (chinese, japanese, korean) population higher than the US that also has a lower child mortality rate, then I will take you seriously.
     
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    I agree that most of his posts are nonsense and most of them deserve to go to never land. However, the 30 m illegal claim may be another matter. I know there were a little over 1 m illegals coming every year for over 25 years. Now, it's possible some of them might have gone back, but you do the math.

    I know there's 7 million kids in California and Texas who speak Spanish.

    Sad to say, but I think that james M's estimate may be more accurate than what everybody has been told.

    Or maybe they're not illegal anymore because they've later become legalized.
     
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    Given how vastly lucrative having a college degree is according to progressives, anyone with a student loan should have no problem whatsoever paying off their college debts because that college degree assures a great, high paying job.

    The increase in tuition is because the government will underwrite loans for anything any university charges. With that, universities would be fools not to give themselves endlessly more pay raises and sock away more and more reserve money. Why not share in the vast wealth awaiting all their graduates?

    Raise tuition 68% as has happened or raise it 300% - doesn't matter. College graduates make SOOOO much more than anyone else with employers lined up waiting at the graduation ceremonies to hand out 6 figure jobs. Therefore, any college graduate should be able to pay off their college loans in just a couple of years and then live a solid upper middle class to high income class life the rest of their lives. All it takes is a bachelors degree in the liberal arts or humanities and you're on easy street. Just ask any progress Democrat and they will tell you just how lucrative any college degree is.
     
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    The number of illegals are about 1/3d of james M's silly figures. And they have been decreasing the last three years.
     
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    What liberal unions?
     
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    james M has unions in his nightmares all the time.
     
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    There is no shortage of job opportunities awaiting one that gets off dey azz and just dood it....Jobs don't come looking for yous...
     
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