Rittenhouse Acquitted

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  1. Bluesguy

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    He was retreating they caught up to him and overtook him.
     
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    Yeah but did this duty to retreat thing come up in the trial?
     
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    Yes, it did. I answered this in detail in post #1471
     
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    You are bickering because you lost your childish wager. Grow up and get over it. Florida has very strict gun laws when it comes to open carry. Even California is more permissive.
     
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    You can engage in all the puerile insults you want, it still does not change the fact that you denied that it was legal in public. You still want to deny it?
     
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    A very interesting thing just happened, a customer just came in the store who happens to be a Florida State trooper he comes in here rather frequently so I asked him about this unlike you he knows the law as well. He also agreed with me.

    Having this in common with you he also said that local sheriffs tend to freak out when seeing open carry when going to and from because they are also ignorant of the law.

    He said FWC officers however do not bat an eye at open carry when going to and from these activities because they deal with this on a daily basis
     
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    Open carry in public in Florida is ILLEGAL, with few obvious exceptions, which I have explained 8 times now. You KNOW IT, but can't get over your pride to admit it. Its not an insult when I call your behavior childish, because I am merely stating a fact.

    We have VERY STRICT laws (more strict than California) against open carry and you cannot admit it, because in your view such laws are MARXIST. You have to deny it, and bicker over target shooting and hunting related activities, which would be impossible to do unless you can take your gun out of the closet. What's the alternative, - keister your AR15 on the way to the range? Such exceptions are beyond obvious, but you use it to argue open carry is just fine and legal in Florida.

    Go grab your AR15 and go to Miami beach, and when you are arrested (and you WILL be) just tell them your are going hunting.

    With target shooting & hunting related activities? Yes, I agree too, and have stated the fact 8 times, but you continue to childishly argue that I disagree.

    Grow up!
     
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    Driving a car in FL is ILLEGAL with a few obvious exceptions, have to have a drivers license, insurance etc.. see how that works? The exceptions that you are admitting to are why you lost the bet.

    Yes or no can you open carry in FL? yes you can based on some restrictions.. just like every state.. just because some states that allow open carry to have less restrictions then FL does not mean that there is NO open carry in FL.. you lost stop being a child and move on
     
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    It would work like that if you could open carry with license, but there is no such license for civilians.

    No, it is not "some restrictions" It is practically always illegal with few exceptions, which I have mentioned 8 times. 1% of Floridians have a hunting license, and even they can carry openly only during hunting related activities.

    If you want to argue FL is an open carry State, then so be it, but you are only lying to yourself.


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    Not that I know of, I don't think the prosecution could have made a case that he could have retreated more than he did and since they caught up to him........
     
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    I'm through with him it's obvious that he's lost the bet because he said it's never legal in public and as we have seen it is when coming to and going from camping hunting hiking or fishing like I've told him about 10 times now.

    All he has is projection and little insults.

    Notice how he cut the portion of my post where the state trooper told me how the FWC officers deal with this everyday and do not bat an eye
     
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    That's actually exactly the case the prosecutor tried (badly) to make at trial.
     
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    Good information all around. Thanks and hopefully this clears things up for all concerned. While I tried to stay up with the trial, I do work so I missed some things at times.
    I do sincerely hope that the Congress man mentioned elsewhere does push for some type of federal
    No duty to retreat. Knowing this may violate states rights hopefully shedding light on this may open it to discussion in states with this law
     
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    thanks for admitting you where wrong and lost the bet..
     
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    I pray the Lord will sow the seed of honesty & maturity in your heart.
     
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    Not that I know of, I don't think the prosecution could have made a case that he could have retreated more than he did and since they caught up to him........

    Yes I know, he couldn't make it. He was left with trying to make the case that Rittenhouse should have just laid there and let them beat on him a little while and just "man up".
     
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    This is all you were left with is your stupid little insults since it's obvious you don't have a clue about the laws.

    I won't pray a damn thing about you because I know it won't help.

    The Lord helps them that helps themselves and that does not apply to you
     
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    Yes, but why is there no possible way that a different jury could have come to the same verdict?
     
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    That is true no jury is the same.
     
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    Obviously no jury is the SAME, but aren't you saying that there's no possible way that a different jury could have come to the SAME VERDICT?
     
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    Looks like it is. Credit to @HurricaneDitka for sourcing this:

    https://docs.legis.wisconsin.gov/statutes/statutes/939/iii/48

    Wisconsin Legislature: 939.48
    (2) Provocation affects the privilege of self-defense as follows:
    (a) A person who engages in unlawful conduct of a type likely to provoke others to attack him or her and thereby does provoke an attack is not entitled to claim the privilege of self-defense against such attack, except when the attack which ensues is of a type causing the person engaging in the unlawful conduct to reasonably believe that he or she is in imminent danger of death or great bodily harm. In such a case, the person engaging in the unlawful conduct is privileged to act in self-defense, but the person is not privileged to resort to the use of force intended or likely to cause death to the person's assailant unless the person reasonably believes he or she has exhausted every other reasonable means to escape from or otherwise avoid death or great bodily harm at the hands of his or her assailant.
    (b) The privilege lost by provocation may be regained if the actor in good faith withdraws from the fight and gives adequate notice thereof to his or her assailant.
    (c) A person who provokes an attack, whether by lawful or unlawful conduct, with intent to use such an attack as an excuse to cause death or great bodily harm to his or her assailant is not entitled to claim the privilege of self-defense.
     
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    Yes, prayer is all there is left. I have never seen such case of purposeless pride and inability to admit being wrong (+ being easily offended).

    I don't need help. I know the law and it reads just like I described for 8 times, but what can one do when you argue against things no one said.

    Have a nice day.
     
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    Yes, we talked about that as soon as the trial begun. Many other States have done away with that by enacting "Stand Your Ground" laws.

    They did not make that argument. Instead they argued he provoked the incident in the first place, and shot unarmed people, but the outcome shows they were unable to persuade the jury that Kyle did NOT have a reason to fear for his life. On the contrary, the defense put Kyle on the stand, and the sobbing child convinced the jury that he was scared shitless. Case closed.
     
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