RNC withdraws from Commission on Presidential Debates

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  1. Bluesguy

    Bluesguy Well-Known Member Donor

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    This goes back a year or more but now official and high time.

    NOTE: This is NOT the RNC saying they will not participate in any future candidate debates. It will just be between the parties as to who moderates and where and the formats.

    What they're saying: "The Commission on Presidential Debates is biased and has refused to enact simple and commonsense reforms to help ensure fair debates including hosting debates before voting begins and selecting moderators who have never worked for candidates on the debate stage," RNC chair Ronna McDaniel said in a press release.

    • "Today, the RNC voted to withdraw from the biased CPD, and we are going to find newer, better debate platforms to ensure that future nominees are not forced to go through the biased CPD in order to make their case to the American people," she added.
    • "Debates are an important part of the democratic process, and the RNC is committed to free and fair debates."
    https://www.axios.com/rnc-vote-withdraw-president-debate-55487e0f-1a72-4242-8f5b-5cea225f9ea0.html

    Let's hope we have far better debates in the future.
     
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    So, the RNC cannot control the Presidential Debates in their favor and are thus, acting like spoiled children who cannot get their way.
     
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    They cannot control the bias against them and their candidates with a group, an unelected group at that, that acts like a spoiled child and believing has some inherent power over any and all Presidential debates.

    Let's hope we can finally actually get some good debates that can actually allow us to properly judge the candidates.
     
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    Neither can the DNC can control the bias against them. And yet, they have bigger cojones than the RNC to stay in the game.
     
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    Bluesguy Well-Known Member Donor

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    The debate commissin bias against them..................:roflol:

    They will both have an equal seat at the table when time comes to set the rules and time and place and who's for the debates we don't need the women's commission to do it.
     
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    They both had an equal seat before the RNC left. The only reason why the RNC left is that the RNC wants to control the narrative at any and all costs, especially if Trump or DeSantis runs.
     
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    No they don't the LWV makes the decisions and when the Republicans complained the LWV to them to take a hike, now they have been told the same. This is NOT something new you know, the Reps have been warning the LWV for years. OUR Presidential debate system should not be held hostage by this private group which believes it has some right to run the them.

    ""The Commission on Presidential Debates is biased and has refused to enact simple and commonsense reforms to help ensure fair debates including hosting debates before voting begins and selecting moderators who have never worked for candidates on the debate stage," Republican National Committee (RNC) Chairwoman Ronna McDaniel said in a statement."
    https://www.npr.org/2022/04/14/1092...the-biased-commission-on-presidential-debates

    Deal with the REAL reasons not your made up ones.
     
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    This should have been done years ago.
     
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    It's actually just the opposite of that.
     
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    With one of the two major parties withdrawing from the organization, The Commission on Presidential Debates is now over and dead.


    Oh, and I'll tell you why the Commission on Presidential Debates could not accept reforms. It's probably because Biden. In his state there's no way he could engage in an actual debate without being protected with a biased moderator who will carefully temper his questions and not ask anything unexpected. And it's likely he may try to run for President again.
     
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    Not a great sign. I'm hoping that there is still something in the party that can be salvaged. As for myself, the 2022 primaries are the last chance I'm giving the party. A friend just sent me a Youtube video suggesting that the Libertarian Party be invited instead.
     
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    A fair debate question to Biden in the last debate would have been, "VP Biden, you appear to be a senile filthy whore that through un-democratic means obtained the party nomination. Why shouldn't voters vote Trump to avoid a Beijing puppet like yourself. A 1/2 century long career lying pol, who will likely bring on WW3 and crash our economy?" And to Trump, "we've had unprecedented economic prosperity with no new wars in your tenure. Wouldn't a voter be a moron to vote against you to avoid mean tweets?" Instead they did things like let Biden claim he never called our military members "stupid bastards" even though you can watch him do it on youtube (assuming it is still there).



     
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    I left the Republican party before the 2016 elections and have voted Libertarian since.
     
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    Go libertarian the others will not change
     
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    Bob Barr was my first lol
     
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    I've voted for people of both/neither party, just depending on the individual. I've been registered as Libertarian for while but switched over to Republican for the upcoming primaries to see if there is anything to salvage. We'll see.
     
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    I phone banked for McCain at one point. Disagreed with him on a bit, but he was a decent guy.
     
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    You do recall that the straw that broke the camels back was when the commission, at the demand of the RNC and opposition of the DNC, refused to schedule a debate between Trump and Biden before the voting began. And who benefits from early voting?
     
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    I don't share your hatred for early voting. I think it should be legal. Not sure why you disagree. The straw that broke the camel's back was Trump throwing his usual toddler tantrum when he didn't do well in the debates, this after he was repeatedly allowed to break the rules of the debate.
     
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    Oh spare me assigning emotions to me when my opposition is based the process itself which is not even the topic here.

    And then assigning your phony emotions to Trump, he had not been in any debates there was not Republican that ran against him in the primary's and the RNC and Trump were DEMANDING to have a debate ASAP.

    Try again

    You do recall that the straw that broke the camels back was when the commission, at the demand of the RNC and opposition of the DNC, refused to schedule a debate between Trump and Biden before the voting began. And who benefits from early voting?

    They didn't want them not to happen or delayed they wanted them to start immediately. The commission refused with the DNC in full support to schedule a debate BEFORE the voting began. That was absurd but favored Biden because it kept him hidden as long as possible as they were trying to do the entire campaign.
     
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    This all started after Trump refused to follow the rules of the debate and then people began suggesting that maybe the rules should be enforced. That's when the toddler imploded, and his followers have been echoing his tantrums ever since.
     
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    It started when the commission refuse to schedule a debate before the voting started, in continued when the commission changed the rules to go virtual without any consultation with the parties and Trump wanted people there with proper COVID precautions, virtual would have been a snooze fest and the commission refused to even negotiate as if they OWNED the debates................and with the years and years before time to disband them.
     
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    Dude, Trump didn't even favor COVID precautions when he HAD COVID. But tell yourself whatever lies you need to play this make believe.
     
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    DUDE he and Biden could have appeared on stage together but the commission was refused ORDERING them to do it virtual, it was the format he was ripe and ready to get on with the debated, just as he was when he and the RNC wanted more debates and earlier especially BEFORE the voting began. And the commission has not stated it will ensure debates before voting begins in 2024. So the RND finally told them to take a hike. We will now have better debates instead of the insufferable biased one we have had in the recent past.
     
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    Trump was allowed to run roughshod over the debate rules. When Trumpists complain about "bias" in the debates, they are faking it. They are just whining that they didn't have even more ability to break the rules.
     

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