Robert Spencer smacks down Ron Paul

Ron Paul, siding with the terrorists again. What a true patriot he is

http://www.jihadwatch.org/

 

Robert Spencer is a hater.. That's what he does for a living.

I am not a big fan of Ron Paul... but I wouldn't believe anything that Spencer says.

 

Why is he a hater? Because he posts articles about what terrorists are saying? Because he is exposing some uncomfortable truths about Islam and your Muslim buddies?

You wouldn't believe a word Spencer says because you're a Muslim or a Muslim sympathizer. That's why you can't even mention Muhammad's name without writing the arabic "peace be upon him" afterwards.

 

He has devoted his career to lying and exaggerating.. Americans who have lived in Arabia for decades consider Robert Spencer and Robert Baer to be lying crackpots.

Have you lived in the Arab world? What is your experience of Muslims? Were you ever afraid of them?

 

Robert Spencer, in the overwhelming majority of his work, is simply quoting Muslims when they explain why they believe the things they do. It is no secret to them that they get their radical beliefs directly from the Qur'an and Islamic theology. Robert simply points it out. By doing this, he is accused of being a hatemonger, a racist, an "Islamophobe" (a word made up by the Islamic supremacist thugs at CAIR, oddly enough), and worse. He has received thousands of death threats.

Can you point to any of his exaggerations and lies? If so, why aren't you busy refuting him? He has an open invitation to anyone who wants to debate him. Many Muslims and Islamic apologists have tried, and they have all failed. The truth is not on their side.

Islam is a dangerous religion. It's the most fundamentally violent and intolerant religion there is out of the major world religions. I don't need to live in Arabia to understand it.

 

Robert Spencer has devoted his life to screwing you.. He has never been anywhere in the Muslim or Arab world.

 

Since when does someone need to go to the Arab world to understand Islam?

You claimed that he is exaggerating and lying, yet when you are pressed to explain, you dodged it. How incredibly convenient!

Christians like you are useful idiots for Muslims. They are killing thousands of your Christian brothers and sisters in the Middle East right now, forcing them into exile, and you are taking the side of the Muslims. Wow.

Seriously, check out whats going on in Egypt and Pakistan, if you've got the stomach for it.

 

Well the true patriots that actually put their asses on the line...... beyond the keyboard.....the ones actually fighting the terrorists......are Ron's biggest fans.

http://digitaljournal.com/article/310783

U.S. Rep. Ron Paul receives more military donations than Obama

Twice the Military Donations Than All GOP Candidates Combined

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As a huge Ron Paul fan I have my disagreements with him........but even if you disagree with his foreign policy.......the guy is spot on with everything and anything else.
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Ron Paul is a Neville Chamberlain at a time when we need Winston Churchills. We have a dangerous, supremacist religious group claiming that the whole world belongs to them, and anyone who stands in their way will be butchered, and his suggestion is to give in to their demands. His suggestion is to blame the victims, not the obvious perpetrators.

Ron Paul would take up arms against Israel before going after Palestine, and his base knows it. They are fine with it.

How about we elect a true blue conservative who will agree with most of Ron Paul's economic ideas, but won't be tied down with the neo-Nazi connections, the pro-Islamist foreign policy, etc? Paul's foreign policy is not something most conservative thinking people will simply glance over. Sorry. It shows a serious lack of understanding on his part.

 

Again with the neo-Nazi nonsense. Ron Paul is an extremely popular politician who receives money from hundreds of thousands of people and takes pictures with thousands of people a year. He can't possibly screen every last individual who donates to his campaign or asks to take a picture with him. If you want to criticize Ron Paul on the relative merits of his position, then feel free, but to wrongly malign and slander him is just plain wrong. Ron Paul does not have any "neo Nazi connections" and to state otherwise is simply dishonest.

 

Well despite your wildest fantasies.....the US Military (Ron's biggest fans) isnt going to be able to stop the spread of radical islam......and a further attempt to do so is going to leave you waving the flag of The Bankrupt States of America.

And yes its hard to believe......but decades of military intervention around the world has left us with a lot of ungrateful friends and plenty of enemies.....which is the extent of Ron Paul "blaming the victim".

Nonsense........

I dont want a conservative that will agree with Ron Paul's economic ideas.........I want a conservative that will actually try and implement Ron Paul's economic ideas......

.....Im thinking Ron Paul would be the best choice for such an endeavor.
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This is what passes for "siding with the terrorists?

 

The war isn't what is bankrupting us.

So you're saying we already lost, then. Darn. So, just sit and wait for them to come to us? Oh wait, let's join them in their fight against Israel. That'll make them happy. Maybe they'll go easy on us.

Ron Paul believes in appeasement and the path of least resistance. He isn't just anti-war. He does not see Islam as a threat, by his own admission, and believes that all of the problems in that region are our fault, even though Muslims have been engaging in jihad and conquest since 700 AD. Like Obama, Paul believes he has to apologize to the world for America. That's not the kind of leader we need.

 

Islam in and of itself isn't a threat, it's the extremist within who harbor all sorts of crazy ideas and goals who are the threat. Those extremist hate us more for our foreign policy than for who we are.

We don't need to have troops deployed in the M.E. to protect ourselves from extremist here at home. We have no reason to be in Afghanistan or Iraq anymore. We have no need to hold Israel's hand like it's some defenseless infant. All we need to do is fulfill whatever obligations we might have and then come home. We do need to keep good intelligence on certain M.E. governments, and terror organizations here and abroad. We certainly don't need another leader who will drag us into another war or continue instigating other nations.

 

Not alone......but it would take an extremely naive view to claim it wasnt playing a big part.

........how many more wars can we afford at the moment? Can we and should we be the World's Police force for eternity?

Im saying The Bankrupt States of America isnt going to be worth defending.....nor is it going to be capable of mounting an offense much less a defense.

The collapse of this country and economy is the loss the enemy is vying for......and what out of control government spending is going to deliver.

So you disagree with his foreign policy........which I do at times as well........

.......but is there anything else? Is there another candidate where you can find more mutal agreement?
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Those "crazy ideas and goals" come straight from the Qur'an and Islamic theology. The terrorists are not just making them up. If it were simply political, there wouldn't be over 1400 years of jihad and Islamic conquest. There wouldn't be Qur'anic scriptures that call for an endless war against unbelievers until they either convert or agree to be subjugated.

We need a leader who has an understanding of the threat. Our presence in the Middle East did not turn peaceful, kite-flying Muslims into violent jihadists, despite Michael Moore's ramblings. Herman Cain seems to be the only one who understands the unique threat that Muslims pose to the entire freedom loving world, but sadly, he will not be the nominee. Neither will Paul, but it's sad to see someone with absolutely no clue (Paul) doing better than someone who does (Cain).

 

I do want the wars to end, because they are not winnable the way we have been fighting them. If we want to win wars, we need to fight them the way we used to, and that's with mass slaughter. That's the only way to thoroughly defeat an enemy. That's not a viable option for many reasons, so I am not suggesting we do this. However, I would feel a lot better about a President who decided to end the wars and come up with a strategy on how to deal with the cause of the overwhelming majority of the world's conflicts at the moment, radical Islam. Paul is not the guy. He is naive enough to believe that if we simply left and acted nice for a while, all would be solved.

I agree with cutting spending, but the military is not what is bankrupting us. We need to seriously change our entitlement programs to avoid bankruptcy.

Too many of Ron Paul's ideas are unknown and untested. Whoever wins needs to study what Reagan did to turn around Carter's doomed economy. Of course, they should avoid some of the pitfalls that Reagan fell into, as well. He wasn't perfect, but he is what we needed.

 

So which country should we start carpet bombing-- only hitting radical muslims?

......surely this method will not create any additional enemies.....

America's finest dont need to be.....nor should they be......in over 150 different countries.

By all means we need to cut the Democrat Provided Social Teet.......but that doesnt mean the Republican sacred cows should remain untouched.

Be honest......you dont know much about Ron Paul or his ideas past your handful of disagreements.....do you?
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All we need to do is protect ourselves here at home. All we need to do is control immigration from M.E. nations. All we need to do is keep heat on extremist here at home, to relentlessly pursue and prosecute them here.

Once again, we don't need to be over there to protect ourselves here.

Ron Paul has given no one reason to believe that he would passively sit on his hands as clear and present danger threatens the nation. He knows there are nut job Jihadist in the world. All he is saying is that 1) our foreign policy and activities is much to blame for our current problems, and 2) that occupying these nations now isn't helping matters... in many ways.

 

Funny how you chose to leave out this part of my quote...

Agreed. Luxembourg is giving us virtually no problems, at all. Ditto Finland.

I'm not as clued in as the Ron Paul fanboy base, here, but I've heard him enough to know that he doesn't have a clue about important issues, and that some of his theoretical ideas have just as much chance of succeeding as Marxism. That's enough, for me.

 

What's to fear? The fact their satan authored book of evil commands koranimals to kill all who will not convert?
mohammed ((*)(*)(*)(*) be upon him) was a evil, sadistic, misogynistic,baby raping scum bag. It's not a religion, it's a 7th century barbaric form of oppression, conquest and government. Have you seen the stat chart for ramadamadingdong for koranimal violence in that time period alone? And I bet there's a ton more we NEVER hear about. http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/

They practice baby raping, animal raping, dead wife raping and subjugate their poor unfortunate females to lifelong violence and degradation. They cut off noses, throw acid in faces, amputate and stone to death. But somehow their poor wittle feelings are hurt by a cartoon. They are "offended" over imaginary slights, yet have no qualms about butchering Jews, Christians, Buddhists, Wiccans, their own daughters.

I've wondered, why is naming every other male koranimal spawn mohammed not "blasphemous?"

I don't see too many Jehovahs and Jesus popping up in the birth announcements.

 

....and the truth shall set you free. If you knew more about him, chances are you would be voting for him.

Besides the important issue of "killing all the Muzscums".....

.......what other important issues do you disagree with him on?
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You're so funny Brew...

Didn't you in the last Ron Paul thread condemn Muslims for their Slaughter of Innocents too? Funny how it's okay when we do it. You're such a god (*)(*)(*)(*) hypocrite...

Direct Quote...

"Look up what he did to the surrendered, unarmed people in Banu Qurayza. Boys old enough to have pubic hair were beheaded, the women and children forced into slavery. But, as long as they claim self defense, I guess it's all good, right? It's an excuse still being made today."

You're saying we should act as Muhammed did in order to achieve total victory? Read my sig... you're just as Evil as the People you Demonize.

 

Yea you know Mohhumed just about ruined the Muslim People, a ver false prophet but which false prophets leave this life without doing some crazy ass things? Mohummed is no different then say Ghangis Kahn, likely Ghangis was more thoughtfull then Mohummed! It is kind of funny how they grabbed on this (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)bag for a religious icon?

Never the less, these douchbags been acting up for what now? 12 hundred years now? I mean we took them to lunch in the 18th century, Europe expelled them how many times? Twice, well you know the third time they say is a doocey! Every government we say fall over their falls, we dominate them now and likely the near future. I can only imagine how the muslim's will suffer if they start this suicide/homicide bombing in Europe much or less here! It won't be a pretty site at all.

Now I'm wondering, just how much do I fear an evasion from the ME with troops? Well its not in the top 100 and I don't think I have a hundred worries right now?

So Paul is simply saying is that there is no real threat coming from the Islam Religion that can be cured with sending our military in harms way. You know at this point I would have to agree. Not to mention our troops in Japan, Germany, UK, Holland, Korea etc etc.... I mean lets bring them home and open up bases here in the US, now that is a jobs program for ya that would actually pay dividends and significant dividends. Yet do I fear that Obama will suggest this as a part of a overall economic plan? No, he really is totally stupid at least in politics.

If Obama called for the Cuban Embargo over and starts calling back troops from peaceful areas and start radically withdrawing troops out of the ME his base would likely get excited! Yet he is afraid of piising off the right and moderats (to an extent the moderates) but not like he is gonna be able to rely on them in the upcoming elections!

 

Yea and some say Remember "Dresden".