Of course Assange is entitled to the same protection as Whistleblowers. Any fool can sit in the peanut gallery and cry "you have everything assbackwards" or "Thats Fallacy". What you have failed to do is back up these claims.
They were not combatants, and so I used the term 'innocents'. It was straight up murder, and that's why Manning released it.
Wrong on ALL counts again! I provided the LAW of the Land that DEFINES what is a whistleblower and even Daniel Ellsberg agrees with me that Assange is NOT a whistleblower. So yes, you are WRONG about Assange and everything else.
Good grief! Do you REALLY need the difference to be EXPLAINED to you? War crimes, like Abu Graib, are dealt with BY THE MILITARY! Government corruption and crimes, like trying to cover up crimes, are what we are discussing here.
Let's see DT--the last time I checked the military war part of the government. Is that not so in your fantasy world?
That you persist in using this asinine deflection says volumes about your inability to address the FACTS!
Fact is, today more than ever, it takes lots of time and energy in order to attempt to get to the heart of our reality. So much smoke and so many mirrors, much of it intentional, by ideologues and ersatz journalists who could not give a rat's arse about reality.
Never have I ever claimed it is just the left. But have we seen the behavior coming from the RNC as we saw from the DNC, with a complicit right wing media helping them in banana republic behavior. Of course, the trouble is, the left refuses to call out its radicals, its banana republic people and organization, and you see the same on the right side. This attitude of, it is ok if our tribe does it is appalling and rotten.
Speaking of Roger Stone, I found one of his books in my personal library yesterday. Don't even remember how it got there. The Man Who Killed Kennedy: The Case Against LBJ What does legendary political operative Roger Stone know that historians Robert Caro and Robert Dallek and Fox news host Bill O'Reilly don't? He knows that Lyndon Johnson was behind the assassination of President John F. Kennedy. Combining decades of insider political knowledge with cutting-edge research, Roger Stone lays out the case that Lyndon Johnson was behind the murder of Kennedy and numerous other victims along the way. LBJ was not just shooting his way into the White House; he was avoiding imminent personal destruction at the hands of the Kennedys. Stone reveals that Richard Nixon was convinced that Johnson had a hand in Kennedy's murder--- and that both Barry Goldwater and the KGB came to the same conclusion. Stone indicts J. Edgar Hoover, Gerald Ford, and Arlen Specter for their role in the cover-up and lays out the curious actions of George H. W. Bush on November 22, 1963. Nixon's moment of revelation came on November 24, 1963, as he watched Jack Ruby, in yet another LBJ-directed murder, kill Oswald. Nixon immediately recognized Ruby as a "Johnson man" he knew as a paid informant for the House Un-American Activities Committee from the 1940s. The Man Who Killed Kennedy also reveals other blockbuster conversations with political insiders such as ambassador John Davis Lodge, Roy Cohn, Anthony "Fat Tony" Salerno of the Genovese Mafia family, US ambassador and longtime Nixon intimate Nicholas Ruwe, and Nixon's attorney general John Mitchell, among others, in which they all claim Johnson was behind the JFK assassination. It's about time that the truths inside The Man Who Killed Kennedy are finally revealed. The research and information in this book are unprecedented, and as Roger Stone lived through it, he's the perfect person to bring this material to everyone's attention.
You are the one talking over my posts and the evidence contained there-in - and you know it. You can not even bear to discuss the CIA as a force for evil rather than good because your "necessary illusion" bubble in which you live would be challenged.
I already dealt with this - Just because Assange is not legally defined as a Whistleblower - does not mean he is not entitled to Freedom of Speech. You are so desperate to run away from the various arguments so you have to take one term "Whistleblower" and put all your chips on that bet. Just because someone does not have what some kangaroo legal system defined as "whistleblower status" does not mean they are not entitled to other protections for Free Speech.
Consider these two Facts. 1) The intelligence agency Budget is 73 Billion - include another 55 Billion for the Dark project Budget and you get near 130 Billion. To put this in perspective - this is double the entire federal spend of Mexico - a nation that is 11th in the world in terms of purchasing power. This is more than double the entire Russian Military budget. 2) In 2013 it became legal for our intelligence agencies to create and disseminate propaganda on US citizens ( not that they were not doing this prior to 2013 - but now it is legal). So you can double down on the "intentional" part. It is a propaganda machine .. a BS factory that would make Orwell Blush.
And I made it a point, several times on this forum to inform members about obama signing away the protection of americans from state propaganda. But as you said, not like it didn't happen prior, it was just illegal to do it before obama signed what congress sent him, one of these national security acts. Indeed, we have been subjected to lies, and propaganda coming from intel agencies and our gov't since post ww2. Of course we would be told it was really in the best interests of the american people! ha ha And the conduit for the lies and propaganda has always been MSM. ha ha
Check out this article from 2006. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4655196.stm When you look at the declassified document (with tons of non classified stuff blacked out - stuff that would however make the Gov't look bad) even sans the blacked out stuff - it reads like a false flag how to manual.
Serious Pot calling Kettle Black action going on with you. Normally you are able to coherently debate the issues rather than engage in such avoidance tactics. Whats up ?
Well, I guess it is just impossible for any gov't to be honest in regards to their actions, given that much of its population, its citizens would not be agreeable to some of the nefarious actions done on behalf of not the People, but a few rich elites at the top? And so, they must lie and use propaganda in order to do what a People might not want done in their names? I think this is what it amounts to if you take out genuine national security concerns. When a nation does evil acts, it must be done in darkness, covertly, and then lies must be told in order to be able to do it again tomorrow. ha ha When is the last time that genuine journalism was used to reveal these kinds of deeds? Outside of Wilkileaks? ha ha Of course the US has a hard on in regards to assange. Busting out evil deeds, by journalists will get you in prison these days. The guilty, our rulers, don't appreciate getting caught being corrupt, and evil actors. ha ha
That is exactly why they hate Assange. Assange is exposing their crimes .. and if 3rd world Kangaroo court tactics is what it takes to bring him down - so be it. In the war of information you are either "with us" or "against us". As is the case with any war - the first casualty is the Truth.
How a warrent is served - in this case like the assault on Iwo Jima - is fascist or communist in nature
Except they didn't brutalize him in any way, unlike what happens in brutal police states. The comparison is not an intellectually honest one.
That you are calling the CIA "a force for evil" is the kind of bovine excrement that I expect to encounter in the Conspiracy Forum. It speaks to a Confirmation Bias that cannot tolerate any FACTUAL REALITY that contradicts the preexisting rigid belief system. I have a healthy cynicism when it comes to all politicians and government agencies but I always base my own positions on the Law of the Land and what is best for We the People. In the instance of Assange what he did violated both and that is just documented FACT that no amount of tin foil hattery is going to alter. Most of your posts do not display this bizarre belief so I find it odd that it is appearing in this regard but I uphold your right to whatever beliefs you want to have. That you are harming your own credibility however is NOT my problem.
