Roger Stone May Have Just Exposed A Major Issue With Mueller’s Report

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  1. dairyair

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    OK Rumpelstiltskin
     
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    Er...

    You said so.
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    Nope!
     
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    What were you saying?

     
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    You couldn't even digest the 1st sentence? "Sessions republican-ism isn't in doubt" ... Ask someone who's smart what that means.
     
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    I read your post.

    It was a recitation of the baseless right wing conspiracy theory that Trump has promoted every since they cooked up that hair brained scheme to have Devin Nunes rush to the White House to “reveal” information that the White House had given him to wave in from of TV cameras.

    This idiotic narrative was discredited within days, particularly as it was readily apparant that it had been a staged White House stunt.

    But the narrative lives on on AM right wing talk radio and trashy blogs.

    It seems to revolve heavily around defending Carter Page. Which is odd, since Page has never been charged with anything.
     
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    Empty meaningless rhetoric.

    You’re running out of excuses for your Fuhrer’s incompetence and criminality. And his stupidity is now plainly obvious to all except the really true believers.

    Since discussing the merits of Trump and Trumpism draws only jeers, sighs of disgust, and fact checking, you’re left with the empty non specific ad hominem.

    You weren’t asking a question. You were just hyping. And you know it.
     
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    Your statement was irrelevant to my post and correct
     
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    Yes, defending Carter Page seems to be #1 on the current list....

    I'll be honest, while I have zero issues with his mention in the Steele Dossier or the US obtaining a FISA warrant on him, I'd still like to know how the investigation against him turned out....

    Obviously, the FBI was unable to make a chargeable case against Page after 1 year of surveillance, but since the genie was let out of the bottle with the release of the redacted FISA warrant, I think it would be incumbent on the FBI/DOJ to make it clear the status of their interest in Carter Page. I know that's not normal FBI behavior, but it might be a good idea in this circumstance.

    Even if they come out today and say Carter Page is no longer a target of any investigation, that doesn't remotely make anything they did in 2016/17 illegal or suspect. Back in 2016 (and before), Page was doing things that put him on the radar, but potentially stopped doing them (once he left the Trump campaign?) and thus avoided prosecution?

    I understand that going to the effort of putting surveillance on somebody doesn't mean they actually did anything criminal.

    It's a complicated topic, which has next to nothing to do with the crimes and un-American activities described in the Mueller report, but I do think it needs to be resolved at some point.
     
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    Well, you quoted my explanation of how SS works....so....
     
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    What was the plot that Republicans hatched against Obama? I don't remember.
     
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    Unghuh unghuh unghuh.

    You said: "fuhrer". :icon_picknose:
     
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    We'll see how that narrative turns out.

    One thing we know for sure is that your hoax crashed and burned.
     
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    The FBI never inspected the servers. The DNC would not provide them to the FBI.

    All "evidence" of the hack came from a 3rd party paid by democrats.
     
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    You still don't know what type of server the DNC uses. I get it. Democrats don't have much to be positive about so they manufacture crap to rationalize whatever their beliefs are. You just keep denying reality. Hope that works for you.
     
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    And yet you support Trump. Do you even see any irony in your post ?
     
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    Yes, I did because it is the obvious and I was not referring to the origins of social security.
     
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    Ok...just don't understand what was obvious or what your post was about
     
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    Yet, apparently, you support Democrats.
     
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    Not when they lie. But hey, nice try at deflecting

    DJT has verifiably lied over 10,000 times since he took office and you somehow think that democrats are are bad because you think they lie, and then e I wish some defense of what Trump is doing. If you don’t see the hypocrisy of that then have a nice day
     
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    Please post one of the myriads of lies, by Democrats, that you don't support.

    How about the RUSSIA! hoax?
    or
    Trump is creating a Constitutional crisis?
    or
    Trump is a RACIST!, NAZI!, BIGOTED!, WHITE-SUPREMACIST!, WHATEVEROPHOBE! who hates women?
    or
    Any of the countless others?

    Any of those lies you want to disavow?
     
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    Not really sure what the Social Security system has to do with U. S. Attorney, John Dunham's upcoming task to rip the Democrat coup-attempt against Donald Trump to pieces, but the human imagination knows no bounds....

    We hear all this bullshit about how SS is a "Ponzi scheme". You could also easily observe the much of the big run-up in the stock market over the past ten years has also been a "Ponzi scheme". One key difference is that the stock market can collapse overnight and all the gamblers and day-traders would get to "take it up the ass" -- but -- the Social Security system involves mandatory extractions from workers' paychecks their entire working lives which go into a trust fund!

    Stock market gamblers don't have to be "paid back"... but the government must (MUST) be responsible for all amounts it "borrows" from the SS trust fund.

    There's are a LOT of fanciful, incorrect fables about Social Security that have grown throughout the years. If anyone wants to examine the system as it really is, and check out the amount that he/she is going to receive at a minimum of age 62, go visit:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_Security_(United_States)
    https://www.ssa.gov/myaccount/?utm_source=offsite&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=ocomm-eservices-
    fy19&utm_content=eservice

    One last thought -- any political party that thinks it's going to screw Baby Boomers out of EARNED Social Security benefits is going to commit political SUICIDE. No "if's, and's, or but's" about it. There's about 77 million Boomers in the United States, well-known as the last decently educated generation this country has produced, and, WE VOTE!
     
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    1) It simply is set up like a Ponzi Scheme
    2) The Stock Market is nothing like a ponzi scheme, because your money is actually being invested
    3) that's how the current set up is, but as you know the SS Act has changed drastically yearly, to make sure the money in can be paid out, and is currently set to be insolvent by 2036....if things aren't changed...https://www.chicagotribune.com/business/ct-biz-social-security-medicare-warning-20190422-story.html
     

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