Ron DeSantis telling looters they risk being shot in 2nd Amendment state Florida?

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  1. Reasonablerob

    Reasonablerob Well-Known Member

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    Do you approve or disapprove? Personally I heartily approve, I think Americans are so sick of rampant crime and widespread disorder that this is a Bernie Goetz moment.
     
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    Property is not worth life.

    You shouldnt be able to shoot ANYONE unless you are in fear for your life. Period.

    Otherwise, if someone were to say, steal my wallet and then run away from me. Why shouldnt I just shoot them in the back as they run away?
     
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    Right is the way Well-Known Member

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    Can I have your address?
     
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    I can't approve a Governor encouraging people to take life over property, not to mention that killing people over property is against the law in Florida. You can use deadly force to defend yourself, but to shoot someone rummaging through the ruins of your house will land you in prison. If they break into your house where you are living, then self defense laws will apply.

    The question is whether or not DeSantis actually said it. I know he quoted someone's writing on plywood saying "you loot, we shoot".
     
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    The governor suggesting it is ok, isn't going to stop you from being charged with murder.
     
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    Sure.

    1600 Pennsylvania Avenue NW in Washington, D.C
     
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    Imagine the looting that would happen in a liberal city post hurricane... there wouldn't even be a "catch"... just lots of inventory walking out shop doors...

    I have to say, the sniveling on the thread so far seems forced... Being armed is a deterrent, not an assault. And of course, it violates the liberal notion of dependence and punishment for having stuff... These days, it seems democrats and their sympathizers are more interested in making crime punishment or deterrent free than not.
     
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    What is the problem it is just stuff.
     
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    I think it would be inappropriate to not warn them. I am surprised that DeSantis is taking the time to warn criminals ensuring they live another day. But then I guess it's better if homeowners can avoid the risk of having to protect themselves if can manage to put some sense into the criminals.
     
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    If they are too scared to loot, it will keep everyone from being charged.
     
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    They can easily avoid being killed by not stealing and putting you/others in a dangerous threatening situations. It's really not that hard to not steal.

    Anyways we are talking about people's homes, the place they should be allowed to feel the most safe. If someone invades your home you should not have to wait until you are defenseless to determine if they will only still your things or rape and kill you and your loved ones.
     
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    DeSenseless can't make up law "in his head"; does Florida have a shoot on sight looting law?
     
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    Nothing I have is worth dying for so people should keep their hands to their self.
     
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    You break into a home and the homeowner is justified in using lethal force. Do you know how many rapes occur during a breakin and the felon realizes the he has trapped female under his control?

    It's an easy hazard to avoid, don't break into homes.

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    They don't need a shoot on sight looting law. They exist under Castle Doctrine which states that individuals have the right to use reasonable force, including deadly force, to protect themselves against an intruder in their home.
    All DeSantis did was remind looters of it.
     
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    Then you shouldn't be willing to trade your life for property.

    You have no idea what someones intentions are breaking into your home. If they are bold enough to break into your home, all you can do is expect the worse.
    Whats your families life worth? You going to sit an intruder down and ask them questions?

    If you break into my house in the middle of the night, I'm not asking your intentions as you already made them abundantly clear to me.
    I'd rather be judged by twelve than carried to my grave by six. You can count on it.
     
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    Ron DeSantis telling looters they risk being shot in 2nd Amendment state
    Florida
    :machinegun::truce::omfg:`

    ~ Exactly. Tell it like it is. Even in California there is right to self-defense.
     
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    You are trying to equate looting with home invasion of occupied property. Sure, if someone breaks into your home while you are there, then self defense is justified.

    However, the issue is with typical post hurricane scenario where people grab things from boarded up stores and/or from streets or or yards, or ruins of unoccupied property. That kind of looting is all about property, and not worth killing someone over because it can land you in prison for the rest of your life.
     
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    They can't even determine which property is which. What if someone is just picking through the rubble hopping to rescue a cat; shoot em on sight? It was great PR for DeSenseless to say what he did, but it showed a lack of judgement.
     
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    Does the Castle Doctrine say you can shoot people looking for their cat?
    Does the Castle Doctrine say you can roam the streets shooting people going through rubble?
    Sense nobody has been shot looking for cats or digging through rubble, its fair to say they are not participating in the ridiculous. If they were you would have thousands shot every day.
     
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    Self defense, not stuff defense.
     
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    So far, I haven't read about anybody being shot, thank goodness. It was an irresponsible message DeSenseless put out, encouraging violence when none is warranted.
     
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    Since nobody has been shot, how is reminding criminals Florida is a 2nd amendment state encouraging violence? Sounds like the result is the exact opposite.
    You think telling people you have a right to defend yourself now is encouraging violence? Homeowners are going to roam the streets looking for cat owners to shoot?
    The result doesn't match the anti 2nd amendment media. Does it.
     
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    There has been looting, but no shooting, meaning people think for themselves as opposed to listening to the governor.

    You are still confusing self-defense with defending property. No one disagrees with ones right to defend themselves.
     
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    No thanks to DeSenseless.
     

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