Ron DeSantis telling looters they risk being shot in 2nd Amendment state Florida?

He said "looting", not "home invasion".

Shooting someone for simple trespass in Florida will land you in prison, possibly for the rest of your life.

It is crucial to understand the law if you are going to carry a firearm and are prepared to use lethal force. When I took my concealed carry class, the instructer said half the people who take the class choose to NOT carry a firearm, because the class helps them realize the cost of making a mistake while carrying. It does not sound like you have taken such class, because you sound very excited about the idea of shooting someone.

 

No reasonable person could extract "exited" from my post. I agree when it comes to understanding the law. Can you explain FLs Castle Doctrine?

 

How about you start by learning the difference between simple trespass and home invasion. After reading your posts its clear that violent home invasion is the only type of looting or trespass in existence in your mind and I get tired of repetition. It is legal to shoot in self defense during home invasion, but if you shoot someone standing your drive way, you're going down for murder. Have a nice day.

 

If he is no longer a threat to you or your property, I don't think you have a right to "finish him off". So you would, to be on the right side of the law and morality, leave him lie.
If he is still a threat? Keep shooting until he no longer is one.

And remember kids, "Guns don't kill people. It's the bullets that do. Wait... wait, it's not the bullets that kill people, it's the hole they leave behind!" Sledge Hammer.

 

Great argument against things I never said. We are discussing theft. If there is no one home, its called "Burglary". You can't shoot someone if you are not home, can you? That means the only theft where one can be shot is a "robbery". That is what we are discussing here today. Feel free to join.

 

Here is the thing - Australia has its fair share of dusasters and we do not have the same number of guns as America and nowhere near the amount of looting

 

-snort-
Why do you suppose you do not have the same amount of looting?

 

What we are discussing is DeSantis comment about looting and we have expanded that to trespass, but apparently in your mind there can only ne one kind: violent home invasion with intent to kill. There is no point in continuing since you are incapable of seeing the points other people make.

 

well, it seems a lot of Floridians like him

We don't have a lot to imagine, Think BLM/ANTIFA riots

Or just do not steal and live

Why does the property owners have to give looters a chance, how do they now the people already committing a crime will not commit more? When will liberals gun grabbers defend the effing victims before the criminals

 

You will go to jail if you shoot someone who is looting.

 

it will be hard to prove! ask Zimmermann

 

Yea, we had some of that going on, but I guess everyone did.

To avoid spending rest of their life in prison. Self defense is one thing, but to shoot a guy trying to steal your lawn-mower off your driveway will land you in prison.

Its your life, so you do whatever makes you happy. If you have to shoot, shoot, don't talk.



The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly.

That had nothing to do with looting. He got into a wrestling match with the guy and pleaded self defense. That verdict could have gone either way.

Its a good example of people killing innocent people assuming they were looters, and a reason why governors need to be careful with their words

 

So you would lie about it in court?

 

Maybe

 

I work very hard for everything I have and I'm rather attached to it so anyone who knows what's good for their self should leave my things alone.

I did not work hard to watch some a****** come and help their self to my things.

 

You don't have the right to kill someone for taking your stuff.

 

Did not say I would but it'd be a tough nut to crack.

No one has a right to steal either. But some need to learn the hard way.

 

In FL, you do, most certainly, have the right to use deadly force in the protection of property.

776.031 Use or threatened use of force in defense of property.—
(2) A person is justified in using or threatening to use deadly force only if he or she reasonably believes that such conduct is necessary to prevent the imminent commission of a forcible felony. A person who uses or threatens to use deadly force in accordance with this subsection does not have a duty to retreat and has the right to stand his or her ground if the person using or threatening to use the deadly force is not engaged in a criminal activity and is in a place where he or she has a right to be.

 

they have no right to take my stuff

 

Making claims that call for the operation of another persons mind only erodes credibility. Its not that people don't see your point; its that your argument is weak. You are discussing irrelevant things, lawnmowers, driveways, the thoughts of others, but never once addresses the actual topic.

Will you be discussing the topic or are you just here as an example of why forums have an "ignore" feature?

 

It IS about you not getting it, and you just proved again. The topic is looting. Its right there on the thread topic. Looting has many variations, including stealing stuff from peoples driveways, and I even gave you examples of arrests in Ft Myers where people were arrested for doing just that. Opportunistic thievery is the most typical form of looting after a hurricane, but then again, I already talked about that. Someone told you the topic is self defense in violent home invasion scenario, and you have not been able to figure out the disconnect.

 

Repeating your argument doesn't make is stronger. You disagree with his warning. Fair enough.

 

In my state you can.

 

Where can you can shoot people in the back? Texas?

Yes. Under VERY LIMITED CIRCUMSTANCES

If a burglar is fleeing with your Property, Texas Penal Code 9.42 states that a victim May use Deadly Force to recover the property IF there is no other reasonable way to recover the property OR using another method would expose the property owner to a reasonable risk of death or serious bodily injury. The Grand Jury must agree.

The above is a paraphrase.

The Grand Jury must decide that the use of Deadly Force was Reasonable UNDER THAT SPECIFIC SET OF CIRCUMSTANCES. Please note that the Deadly Force User must be found to be REASONABLE in their judgement. If the Grand Jury does not decide the conduct was reasonable and justified, the shooter will be indicted.

See Texas Penal Code 9.42.

 

Police do not recover stolen goods. It is unreasonable to expect them to, as any policeman will tell you.
Trying fisticuffs with the criminal is likewise unreasonable to expect.
Ergo, halt and put the property down or get shot.

This has been tested ffs.

Signed: An attorney licensed to practise law in Texas.